saveasteading Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) We, perhaps stupidly, asked our compulsory Engineer for the rafter to ridge beam detail. The response is for this bracket which costs £22 Each x 2 sides a 50 = £2,200, just to buy. (I think it may come down to £15 for bulk) How can that piece of stamped and bent metal cost so much? I know that nails used to work, having had the tricky job of removing the old ones from the very old sections of removed old roof. But it seems they don't any longer, Any suggestions please? Edited April 28, 2022 by saveasteading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 what's the detail so we cn give some help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Do the rafters "hang" from a structural ridge beam or is it just a normal ridge board? How is the roof triangulated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Simpson Ridge Rafter Connectors are under £3 but see above first.. https://technologyspareparts.co.uk/shop/simpson-strong-tie-rr47-ridge-rafter-connector-47x100x1-2mm-pre-galv/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshouse Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Nails for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJohnG Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 That would normally be called a hand cut roof (or Hawn cut if you're scottish) I'm pretty that'd be nailed.if it was stick build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, tonyshouse said: Nails for me Only if its a ridge board not a structural ridge beam. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshouse Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) I have seen nails and every third rafter with a 2.5mm 1m long strap over the top nailed with heavy gauge twist nails. These spread the load equally and pinch the rafter into the ridge beam, the one I saw like this never moved or deflected, glueliam ridge beam Edited April 28, 2022 by tonyshouse Sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) It is a ridge beam with props. I don't expect that the cost is known to the Engineer, because I already complained about the £45 holding down brackets for the wall to base detail,(stainless steel in 5mm thickness), and the director interjected and said just to use something else (£5 for galvanised 4mm from TS) Edited April 28, 2022 by saveasteading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshouse Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Can you show us a full roof section please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 There is no complete section drawing but the details are attached. It is stick built as a Glulam ridge beam, with props and a couple of structural cross-walls. There are complex corners to tie the replacement into the existing, which are A frames, with ties at about 1/3 up. But if we can sort the simple frames out, then the rest will follow. We were happy to have tied frames but the Engineer insisted this would be better value. Cost is clearly not their thing and so far they have agreed to most of our proposed revisions, saving £15k to date. That is not really a saving though: it is avoiding un-necessary cost, and now I want to do the same with this. Of course the joiner would likely love this bracket as it is very easy for him, hence asking for help now before he is shown this ridge detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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