Who fits facias and soffits?

[worldwidewebs]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but we're shortly to be starting an MBC build. The roof will be natural slate with Kytun dry verges and the facias and soffits will be aluminium. I've attached a CGI for reference. Who is generally responsible for fitting facias and soffits- is this normally in the realm of the roofer?

[Russdl]

Wow!

I'm sorry I don't know the answer but I'm very impressed with the look of your proposed new build. From that image it looks so much like what we have planned (also hoping to use MBC), but so much better! Back to the drawing board... 

I'll be following this with a great deal of interest.

All the best.

Russ.

 

 

Edited May 28, 2016 by Russdl
To add my poor Sketchup render of similar plan

[Redoctober]

I am no expert but from my basic understanding and I don't know why, but I believe it is the Plumber's job ! I'm sure those with more experience will correct me -

PW.

[Bitpipe]

Beautiful houses guys.

We used a guttering firm as we have alu-clad parapets, they then also did alu fascia, soffits and barges for the house and garage at a reasonable rate, as well as the guttering & downpipes - all powder coated in the same RAL as the windows (7012).

Most of it was fabricated on site (mitered joints) but some elements were welded off site (such as the boxes where fascia, barge and soffit meet).

Looks very smart and glad we upgraded from the planned white UPVC, however I would perhaps have gone for more welded joints than cut mitres as they look sharper.

I'd be surprised if a roofer would take this on as it's not really in their realm, but you never know.

Guttercrest.co.uk is a good place to source materials but I'm glad I didn't go down the DIY route as it looked very fiddley to get it right.

Will post a pic later.

 

[Mikey_1980]

Lovely looking house, our carpenter did ours but we went for black ash effect UPVC, it has come out looking really smart. Our architect was dubious but he agrees it looks good but the carpenter has done a really good job of fitting it, I guess if it's aluminium someone more specialist would be required.

[HerbJ]

 

Vey nice houses, guys..

We used the same guttering firm as bitpipe. We used a combination of plastic  and aluminium soffits and fascias. All aluminium would have been very expensive as we have very large soffits around the house. MBC fitted all the wooden fascias and soffit ledgers and the guttering firm then fitted everything else - soffits, fascias, aluminium seamless gutters and then the alumnium trims around the dormers and gables.

We still have some aluminium trims to be completed around the garage doors.

 

[worldwidewebs]

Thanks for the comments guys - it's taken a while to get to this point though!

1 hour ago, Bitpipe said:

We used a guttering firm as we have alu-clad parapets, they then also did alu fascia, soffits and barges for the house and garage at a reasonable rate, as well as the guttering & downpipes - all powder coated in the same RAL as the windows (7012).

Guttercrest.co.uk is a good place to source materials but I'm glad i didn't go down the DIY route as it looked very fiddley to get it right.

Cool, so what I'm hearing generally is that this is a job for a guttering firm - I actually wondered if gutters etc. was a job for the roofer too so it's been a big school day for me   

I've been looking at Guttercrest, mainly for the gutters(!) but also Dales Eaves who seemed to do nice soffits although I've not priced any of this up yet. We also need aluminium copings and also the bit above the front door/window (and a similar bit around the back). I thought this was the easy bit of the build...

[Trw144]

Hi.

herbj, what render system did you use?

[HerbJ]

The finish coat is Weber Sil TF150 (silicone based finish) on a Weber specifiedd and guaranteed  system  applied to Knauf Exterior Aquapanel

[Stones]

If anyone is looking at cheaper supply options for Alu soffits and gutters, try MSP Scotland.

http://www.mspcladding.co.uk/contacts.html

I'm getting my alu cills from them for about half the price the window supplier wanted (fabricated and painted).  They recently gave me a price for bespoke alu gutters, but will quote for fascias, soffits, coping etc.  If it can be folded they will do it.  Ballpark prices seem good as well, at £5 per linear metre for 2mm aluminium, 225mm wide (flat or folded), then a similar amount to paint in any RAL colour, although paint costs come down the bigger the quantity.  

I spoke to Derek in sales and he was certainly very helpful.  I've emailed him to say he may get a few enquiries from forum users so be sure to mention buildhub.

[Bitpipe]

I'll add to what is now the "Readers Houses' section.

We used a Parex render system, window blinds were supplied in the wrong colour so are being changed for RAL 7012.

I was surprised at the amount of fitting required for the coping and other trim, like Herb, MBC left me with timber (OSB) soffits & facias but still a reasonable amount of work getting it up - the scaff had come down at that stage so it was done from ladders which makes it more tricky - be aware if you're considering DIY.

[worldwidewebs]

12 hours ago, Bitpipe said:

I was surprised at the amount of fitting required for the coping and other trim, like Herb, MBC left me with timber (OSB) soffits & facias but still a reasonable amount of work getting it up - the scaff had come down at that stage so it was done from ladders which makes it more tricky - be aware if you're considering DIY.

Did you do the coping etc yourself?

Also, did MBC not fit the facias and soffits - if not, why was that? 

[Bitpipe]

33 minutes ago, worldwidewebs said:

Did you do the coping etc yourself?

Also, did MBC not fit the facias and soffits - if not, why was that? 

MBC formed the parapet, fasica and soffit on the main roof in OSB and built a frame for the utility and garage, they don't fit any finish such as uPVC or Alu.

Working with large (3m) alu sheets at that height is not trivial and was a lot more involved that I expected, making cuts to get the detailing right, expansion gaps etc. Glad I left it to the professionals.

[worldwidewebs]

3 minutes ago, Bitpipe said:

MBC formed the parapet, fasica and soffit on the main roof in OSB and built a frame for the utility and garage, they don't fit any finish such as uPVC or Alu.

Working with large (3m) alu sheets at that height is not trivial and was a lot more involved that I expected, making cuts to get the detailing right, expansion gaps etc. Glad I left it to the professionals.

Thanks, Hugh. Do you wish you'd left the scaffold up a bit longer or was there a reason you took it down beforehand?

[Bitpipe]

I'd only agreed an 8 week hire period in the erection price, MBC covered some over-run as they were late starting but it was costing me 5% of the hire cost per week for over-runs so as soon as the render was done, I wanted shot of it.

I know HerbJ negotiated a much better arrangement and had his in place for much longer. Even with scaff in place, it's still a bit hairy clambering over a roof, especially wet slate !

[Stones]

Is the coping aluminium?  We are having something similar (know locally as Skews) but done in lead.