Blooda Posted March 11 Posted March 11 On 08/03/2025 at 14:15, Adsibob said: Quotes I’m getting for installation of an insurance approved alarm are crazy. Cheapest quote I’ve got is £1250 installation plus £30 a month for monitoring. Some quotes are twice or even 2.5 times that. There is only a £200 a year saving on insurance on getting an insurance approved alarm. Some insurance comparison websites even quote more if you have an alarm - very odd. You will have to prove it's serviced anually as well.
ToughButterCup Posted March 11 Posted March 11 16 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: ... The fact that our prisons are better than Butlins .... M6 North bound : Lancaster, just short of Lancaster North junction (34), 21:00 and later any day on a warm evening ..... The Prison staff are mostly at home You can hear from the Northbound carriageway, the inmates - many of them , not just one or two - banging on the windows with metal plates, screaming, crying - over the motorway noise. Riding my bike home on the track next to the prison after a late teaching session : I never got used to the noise - and won't forget it either. No Butlins methinks.
SteamyTea Posted March 11 Posted March 11 13 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: No Butlins methinks I lived a few hundred metres from Aylesbury Prison in the 1980s. IRA terrorists were kept there. Now it is a higher security places for lifers, but the younger ones (under 21 I think). Horrible place.
sgt_woulds Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Personally, I think introducing a little public shame back into society might work wonders - bring back the stocks and televise the rotten tomato throwing. There is so much open lawlessness on the streets we could never throw enough people in prison to curb it. There are gangs marauding pavements on stolen mopeds and people openly shooting up on the bench outside our local police training station. As the police pull out in their vehicles they deliberately look the other way. The decline in morals and public order is shocking. The increasing apathy in policing is even more so. 1
sgt_woulds Posted March 12 Posted March 12 But back to the OP's question: Alongside the alarm you should really consider a smokescreen system. If they can't see it they cant steal it
SteamyTea Posted March 13 Posted March 13 21 hours ago, sgt_woulds said: people openly shooting up on the bench outside our local police training station From Wikipedia "President Rodrigo Duterte was elected in 2016 through a platform promising on dealing the illegal drug trade and criminality by having drug addicts killed.[13] He launched a bloody war on drugs campaign. Officially, 6,229 drug personalities have been killed as of March 2022.[14] News organizations and human rights groups claim the death toll is over 12,000" Be careful what you wish for.
Nickfromwales Posted March 13 Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: From Wikipedia "President Rodrigo Duterte was elected in 2016 through a platform promising on dealing the illegal drug trade and criminality by having drug addicts killed.[13] He launched a bloody war on drugs campaign. Officially, 6,229 drug personalities have been killed as of March 2022.[14] News organizations and human rights groups claim the death toll is over 12,000" Be careful what you wish for. Surely the only people who needed to worry there were the lawless member’s of any drug dealing fraternity profiteering from organised crime, which impacted decent citizens horrendously? Good fecking riddance!! 1
SteamyTea Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Nickfromwales said: Surely the only people who needed to worry there were the lawless member’s of any drug dealing fraternity So you have never heard of a miscarriage of justice, or guilt by association. Not drugs I know, but... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_pub_bombings
Nickfromwales Posted March 13 Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: So you have never heard of a miscarriage of justice, or guilt by association. Not drugs I know, but... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_pub_bombings Not getting steered away from my original point here, sorry, but the level of criminality in the UK is out of control and worsening. Something robust needs doing asap, just sadly what used to be Great Britain is now a dustbin for a lot of the world’s shite to flock to. Lay with dogs catch fleas. Pointless adding to this tbh as it’s just too late to open the parachute for the UK as we just don’t have one big enough. Country is steered by the elite, corrupt, and self serving select, and they command the wet wipes that are in control of it all. Just sad to watch this country disappearing in wasted 4 year long gulps of greed and incompetence.
SteamyTea Posted March 13 Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: worsening Is it now. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2024 3 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Not getting steered away from my original point here Steered away from the Daily Mail.
Nickfromwales Posted March 13 Posted March 13 21 hours ago, sgt_woulds said: The decline in morals and public order is shocking. The increasing apathy in policing is even more so. The police I think have become understandably demoralised from the hard work and risk to themselves of catching criminals on the coal face, only to then see a snowflake judiciary system slap them on the wrist and send them back out the door after simply promising to not do it again. Yes, most would say that’s the case for “petty stuff”, but the definition of petty is now severely out of whack; if you speak to the victim or the tax payer covering the cost of all this (who as above, sadly and annoyingly got broken into).
Nickfromwales Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Quote from above link. “In addition, robbery, offences involving knives or sharp instruments and offences involving firearms have also increased over the last year” Only the ones that got reported that is! I get worried when my boys say they’re going out to town for a night out. When I took the lads out for a few beers and a night out, to get into a club in Essex we pretty much had to remove half our clothes / shoes etc and got frisked in a way that made airport security style checks inconsequential. I moaned as I’d had a few beers, and the woman bouncer just said “you rather be searched or stabbed mate?”. Joy.
SteamyTea Posted March 13 Posted March 13 12 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Quote from above link. And 30 odd years ago things were so much better.
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