djcdan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I am a while off tiling yet, but will be setting out the bathrooms imminently and want to double check I have understood the makeup of tiling around the shower tray correct. One of our shower trays in enclosed and has studwork either end of the shower tray, so want to ensure I am leaving adequate space for the shower tray etc. This is a cross-section of my current understanding. Moisture board (blue) fixed to studwork (yellow). Shower tray (light grey) butted against the moisture board. Then tile adhesive (dark grey) applied to moisture board and tiled (green). Am I correct in saying there is a 6mm allowance for tile adhesive and a 'standard' porcelain tile has a depth of 8mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 You want the tray to butt up tight against the studs eg 900 tray 905 opening 8 mil tile = 8 mil adhesive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Get a tray with an upstand too, saves a lot of future grief! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, nod said: You want the tray to butt up tight against the studs eg 900 tray 905 opening 8 mil tile = 8 mil adhesive Only if the footer is doubled up and you can get mechanical fixings through the moisture boards. Never have the bottom of the boards where they are not against the full run of horizontal timber work EVER. I never butt the tray to the studs, I always drop the MR plasterboard / other to the floor and then the tray goes up against that sealed and bonded accordingly. Oh, and reconsider green tiles lol. They’re a bold choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, TonyT said: Get a tray with an upstand too, saves a lot of future grief! Just seal a regular one properly? I only fit upstand trays in student / rentals. I cannot stand the accumulation of crap that gets between the upstand and the shower screen / door. Pita to clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 That’s a fair point, the 3 sides that are in the wall isn’t a problem, and the front does require a clean. i use a wipe and push it into the gap and pull it along, takes 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes a day, = 14 minutes a week. 14 minutes = average time to enjoy a pint. So, to go with an upstand tray I would lose out on 52 pints a year. F**K that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Nickfromwales said: would lose out on 52 pints a year. That’s your weekly consumption so I thought ? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes a week!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcdan Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 hours ago, nod said: 8 mil tile = 8 mil adhesive Cheers. I'll remember for adhesive depth to match tile depth 8 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: I never butt the tray to the studs, I always drop the MR plasterboard / other to the floor and then the tray goes up against that sealed and bonded accordingly. It seems there are differing opinions, but this might be the better solution for us. Another of our shower trays is installed against a stud that has resilient bars and double boarding, which has a depth of 46mm. So having the tray butt against studs would mean a significant amount of the tray becoming 'lost' under the res bars/double board. 8 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Oh, and reconsider green tiles lol. They’re a bold choice Lol. I have left tile choice down to the other half. No idea what she has planned, but pretty sure she won't be choosing a dark green tile. ? 5 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: 14 minutes = average time to enjoy a pint. Considering I've already bought our shower trays without upstands, I'll seal it and leave myself with extra beer time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, djcdan said: Cheers. I'll remember for adhesive depth to match tile depth It seems there are differing opinions, but this might be the better solution for us. Another of our shower trays is installed against a stud that has resilient bars and double boarding, which has a depth of 46mm. So having the tray butt against studs would mean a significant amount of the tray becoming 'lost' under the res bars/double board. Lol. I have left tile choice down to the other half. No idea what she has planned, but pretty sure she won't be choosing a dark green tile. ? Considering I've already bought our shower trays without upstands, I'll seal it and leave myself with extra beer time ? All of the resin ones I come across don’t have up-stands But the fiberglass ones do We always run the board flush with the up-stands We normally wit for the trays to land on site as they can vary by a few mil Most site mangers want to see the board overlapping by 10 mil We normally board them and cut the bottom 450 off and screw it to the back wall for the plumber to put in after he’s fitted the tray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 hours ago, djcdan said: Cheers. I'll remember for adhesive depth to match tile depth It seems there are differing opinions, but this might be the better solution for us. Another of our shower trays is installed against a stud that has resilient bars and double boarding, which has a depth of 46mm. So having the tray butt against studs would mean a significant amount of the tray becoming 'lost' under the res bars/double board. Lol. I have left tile choice down to the other half. No idea what she has planned, but pretty sure she won't be choosing a dark green tile. ? Considering I've already bought our shower trays without upstands, I'll seal it and leave myself with extra beer time ? You wouldn’t butt it against the stud in that case You would allow the tray size plus 5 mil from the first layer of board Your looking for one board either edge to lap on to the tray Ive framed hundreds of these and tiled even more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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