Bioethanol fireplace TV Wall

[Grosey]

Evening all,

 

We are looking at creating something such as this -

 

By purchasing something such as this -

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252356313733 

 

and building it in, which is where the questions begin. 

 

The main rear wall is single skin block so

no issues with it taking the weight of TV and fireplace. The queries really are regarding building all the boxing around the fireplace. The one in the eBay link is a full self contained unit, I may be over simplifying it but could I just build a frame from stud work, and line the boxing for the fireplace in vermiculite or something similar? Plasterboard the front. 

 

With the fireplace fixed to the rear block wall I could probably even create this so that no timber is actually in contact with the fireplace, it could just kind of float around it - hopefully that makes sense?

 

All comments appreciated as always. 

Edited March 14, 2017 by Grosey
Link updated

[AliG]

I looked a lot at bioethanol fires and decided that they were too much hassle and I was a bit worried re safety. I didn't like the idea of having to keep the bioethanol around and manually refill the fire.

 

I have found this instead

 

http://www.dimplex.co.uk/products/fires_surrounds/Opti-myst/cassette_600/index.htm

 

Doesn't put out any heat. Looks pretty good from videos I have seen. Video below

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnWFXS2lKs8

Edited March 13, 2017 by AliG

[lizzie]

I have had bio ethanol. Won't bother again. I am going for the optmyst saw it in our local porcelanosa showroom was fantastically realistic I was amazed to find it was electric and ran on water. I gives out no heat so a simple suround construction to your own design  is all that is needed no heatproofing and it can be as cheap and lightweight as you want to make it. I am sold on it and am having at least one in the new place.

[Barney12]

Very interesting. Looks like I'll have to see one in the flesh.

@lizzie do the logs look real? In that video they look a bit "plastic"

[Nickfromwales]

@Grosey

Can you update the link in your op as its a removed / deleted item . 

Thanks.  

[Grosey]

11 hours ago, Nickfromwales said:

@Grosey

Can you update the link in your op as its a removed / deleted item . 

Thanks.  

 

Should be sorted now?

[Grosey]

22 hours ago, AliG said:

I looked a lot at bioethanol fires and decided that they were too much hassle and I was a bit worried re safety. I didn't like the idea of having to keep the bioethanol around and manually refill the fire.

 

I have found this instead

 

http://www.dimplex.co.uk/products/fires_surrounds/Opti-myst/cassette_600/index.htm

 

Doesn't put out any heat. Looks pretty good from videos I have seen. Video below

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnWFXS2lKs8

 

That optimist does look like quite a realistic system, but I'm after something contemporary, to create that long ribbon of fire look. It's a shame they don't have many products in the optimist range, the fake logs just aren't the look I'm after. 

[AliG]

You can use stones or nothing.

 

They also make a 1m long one for a long ribbon. See below for no logs.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RIZgbVJLP8

 

For me I don't like devices that are a lot of hassle to use as I reckon they'll just sit there unused, it may be different in your situation, in which case I will bow out. The more automated bioethanol fires get ridiculously expensive.

[Siochair]

Does it have to be a real flame? Some of the LCD fires are quite smart. 

[Grosey]

2 minutes ago, Siochair said:

Does it have to be a real flame? Some of the LCD fires are quite smart. 

 

 

Not necessarily, I've just moved on to looking at the LCD ones, but at the width I want 1000mm upwards they also start to get quite expensive. 

 

Its purely just as a focal point so heat output or any other features are very much secondary to realistic flame looks. 

[Grosey]

32 minutes ago, AliG said:

You can use stones or nothing.

 

They also make a 1m long one for a long ribbon. See below for no logs.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RIZgbVJLP8

 

For me I don't like devices that are a lot of hassle to use as I reckon they'll just sit there unused, it may be different in your situation, in which case I will bow out. The more automated bioethanol fires get ridiculously expensive.

 

 

Just looked the casette 1000 up, looks like a potential option especially as I could combine it with a 500 to achieve my desired size. This could start to become expensive though! 

 

Are the logs an integral part of the top lid of the unit, or are they literally just a separate set of logs that sit on top and could be replaced by pebbles or whatever? I've just seen a video where after refilling the water they place the lid and logs back on as one piece...

 

 

[lizzie]

13 hours ago, Barney12 said:

Very interesting. Looks like I'll have to see one in the flesh.

@lizzie do the logs look real? In that video they look a bit "plastic"

Yes very realistic when lit. I dont know how they look when cold though. Dimplex also do another fire lcd with a realistic crackle spark and flame effect, cant remember the model sorry as I decided against it, they have one of those lcd on display at the Swindon build centre.  If you can get to see an optimyst working I think you will be impressed.

I found a small size optymist on line for £400ish

[AliG]

I see what you are saying re the logs. I think looking at it, the logs sit on top of the cassette 500/1000 and can just be taken off, whereas they form the top of the 400 and 600 but it would be best to check with a dealer.

 

The 500/1000 can also be plumbed in so that you don't have to manually fill them up with water.