stubiff Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) Putting cost considerations aside, what are the benefits of having a tank to store HW? Two I can think of are having HW in a power cut (assuming electricity is in some used to generate the HW) and having the HW quicker (probably) at a tap/outlet. Edited May 10, 2021 by stubiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Benefit of a hw tank compared to what? Compared to a combi boiler, possibly greater hot water flow rate, better shower etc. HW tank allows you to use a low power source such as an air source heat pump to heat the tank and use solar PV as well to heat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Cheap and easy to I stall, especially a vented system. Reliable, but also easy to fix (vented as you can diy it). Controllable temperature, can be just about anything you like between just over 0⁰C and under 100⁰ C (okay that is silly, but usable between 35⁰C and 65⁰C). If vented and pumped, flow rates of your choice. Can have multiple thermal and electrical energy inputs. You get an airing cupboard. I am sure there are others. Downside is size and standing losses if installed without consideration to thermal losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: standing losses if installed without consideration to thermal losses. If you store hot water at 48’ like I and others do the losses are very small, means a bigger tank tho, Also your DHW tank can be considered a battery storing hot water from solar PV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, joe90 said: If you store hot water at 48’ like I and others do the losses are very small, means a bigger tank tho, Also your DHW tank can be considered a battery storing hot water from solar PV. Exactly. But it is not that hard to reduce the losses. Just make the area it is in airtight and well insulated. I use a combination of sheet PU and mineral wool (to fill in the gaps). I posted up my DHW temp profile somewhere else. https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/uploads/monthly_2021_05/image.png.587b8c485e11d47456cbb9cbf007e46f.png Edited May 10, 2021 by SteamyTea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I have an insulated tank and er indoors complains the airing cupboard is not warm enough ?♂️. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, joe90 said: I have an insulated tank and er indoors complains the airing cupboard is not warm enough ?♂️. Insulate the cupboard, not the cylinder. Then pipe out the warm, damp air with the MVHR. Or buy a washing line for a quid at Poundland. You are at home most days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Insulate the cupboard, not the cylinder. Cylinder came with insulation under metal jacket, walls and ceiling are insulated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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