Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, pocster said: Ok . The square collar has an internal o ring which does indeed go against the spindle collar . It’s this other o ring I don’t get . Taking it all apart , putting it on the collar ( so it would have a o ring inside and outside ) it won’t fit in the face plate . You can see it’s mega tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: This is why we keep a good few spares, don’t we......? Yeah but I use all the spares for my f ups ! Then there are no spares ? Looking at the ensuite one again . I’ve marked in pencil the face plate corners . Might be able to dremel a wider opening so I can get to the fixing screws and perhaps pack them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Took SWMBO’s brand new tv to site ( so I can sort Ariel ) . Screen smashed ? Not a good day today !! Edited April 17, 2021 by pocster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 But apart from all that, life’s good ?. What doesn’t kill you....etc. Chill, breathe, it’s just another day in paradise. Nowt will change it and stress is a killer. 7 minutes ago, pocster said: Yeah but I use all the spares for my f ups ! Then there are no spares ? Looking at the ensuite one again . I’ve marked in pencil the face plate corners . Might be able to dremel a wider opening so I can get to the fixing screws and perhaps pack them out Yes, go for that if you know you have at least 10mm play in the plumbing? Don’t stress the pipework, it’ll just leak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: But apart from all that, life’s good ?. What doesn’t kill you....etc. Chill, breathe, it’s just another day in paradise. Nowt will change it and stress is a killer. Yes, go for that if you know you have at least 10mm play in the plumbing? Don’t stress the pipework, it’ll just leak. No idea if pipework has enough play ! Will find out ! . Now what about that “ what do I do with it “ o ring ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 On the ensuite . Those screws are a long way back . Even if I accessed them all and removed how the hell do I pack behind them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Answer one thing at a time. Loosen all the screws and see if the valve will move without really pulling stupidly on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Answer one thing at a time. Loosen all the screws and see if the valve will move without really pulling stupidly on it. Will do tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, pocster said: Will do tomorrow Makes sense. Go outside and play now. ?. Watch for cars, ok. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Makes sense. Go outside and play now. ?. Watch for cars, ok. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, pocster said: On the ensuite . Those screws are a long way back . Even if I accessed them all and removed how the hell do I pack behind them ? Could I 3D print something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Onoff said: Could I 3D print something? Not sure . I think access is the issue . But let me get those 4 screws out first - make sure enough slack in the pipework ( all Hep2o so assume ok ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Onoff said: Could I 3D print something? Actually I can think of something that would pack it out and give me access . But let me get those 4 screws out first ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, pocster said: Actually I can think of something that would pack it out and give me access . But let me get those 4 screws out first ! We've some ABS filament here which would do I reckon. We need to crack printing in it anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Onoff said: We've some ABS filament here which would do I reckon. We need to crack printing in it anyway! Is it strong ? Once printed I mean ? Not brittle ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, pocster said: Is it strong ? Once printed I mean ? Not brittle ???? How strong...pretty damn strong! For example: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 If you really had wanted to make life hard for yourself you would have let your architect spec Vado taps for you like we mistakenly did on a 88 unit scheme! 2mm max tolerance for the bodies otherwise the square surrounds would not be straight. What a nightmare. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Doesn’t need to be strong if it’s only a spacer as it’s in compression. I would mark round the face plate, draw 20mm in and then cut the tile away and pull the valve forward. Mucking about with those little cuts you’re more likely to crack the tile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) I think some companies make longer chrome tubes and matching brass innards for this situation. I'd wait until you can contact the maker on Monday. Edit: Fir example Perrin & Rowe make 19mm and 30mm extension sets for deep cavities. No idea if they fit Roper Rhodes though. Edited April 17, 2021 by Temp 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 Can’t sleep - this keeping me awake . Be nice if the valve was on a caddy with a screw at the front that can move the whole assembly back and forth . Anyway found an old photo . Looks like in theory it should come forward ok ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, pocster said: Can’t sleep Me neither. Having a malfunctioning brain is a pita. Hey-ho. All you need is 4 small squares of 9mm or 12mm plywood, say 30mm square, turn a 4" screw into the corner of them ( like a bit of cheese on a cocktail stick ) and then use the 4" screw to allow you to insert the square and rotate it behind the fixing hole. Send the shower fixing screw back all the way through the shower and the plywood spacer and tighten up to the pinch pint, then relax it back off a bit. Repeat, and then let me know so I can get some shut-eye. Patience, so you don't fcuk the tiles up, would be best, so do it when you're sober and sane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Sober will do. Baby steps...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Also still awake. Google suggest the extension kits are sometimes called "Deep rough in kits" or "deep rough extension" or similar. Example: https://www.nyrpcorp.com/bathroom-kitchen-shower-faucet-parts/shower-roughs/deep-rough-kits/ If your plumber accidentally roughed your shower valve to far in the wall or your tile contractors built the wall to far out after shower valve installation the solution may be a shower valve deep rough extension kit. Extend you shower valve out with a new deep rough extension kit." When we had a problem with our mixer the chrome part was ok but the brass spline was the wrong length. I ended up cutting and resoldering it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: when you're sober and sane One of those I can manage . The other - not a chance ! Managed to get some sleep once I found that reassuring old photo Edited April 18, 2021 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 7 hours ago, pocster said: Can’t sleep - this keeping me awake . Be nice if the valve was on a caddy with a screw at the front that can move the whole assembly back and forth . Anyway found an old photo . Looks like in theory it should come forward ok ... That looks like it will come forward but I would carefully slack those screws off with an ordinary driver and not an impact as it looks like you used cheap crap screws and the heads will chew up if they aren’t done slowly. Also - you need to make sure you find a decent level and find how you can set that veritical (or aligned with the tiles ....) as a rectangular plate will show. You may want to just put one screw back in tight over the @Nickfromwales Space-O-Matic ply spacer (good idea to also drill a hole through the spacer so you don’t have it jacking up off the timber) and then put the shrouds and cover on to square it up. Then tighten up the mounting screws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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