ryder72 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Gaggenau - I imagine a downdraft type hob will be £4k. More than the Bora certainly. If this is price sensitive, you best option is a recirc Bora and to open doors and windows if the smell gets excessive. Any other solutions is going to cost magnitudes more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeepotclaire Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 @ryder72 If we go with a downdraft system our preference is definitely to extract out. Not keen on the recirc option. However, do you think our route out as set out below would work ok? 'We will need to come down from the island to the floor then 2m across the floor, up the internal face of the external wall and then out through the wall so in effect 3 x 90 degree bends'. And what sort of cost are we talking about for a powerful ceiling extractor as you suggested? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 If you go with a downdraft system you still have no guarantee that you wont get smells in the room from the inherent inability for any downdraft extraction system to take away 100% of smells and humidity. This means you will have to open doors and windows to clear the room. And if you are prepared to do this, you may as well recirculate, save yourself the cost and bother of ducting out, and give yourself the energy saving benefit gained from the fact that good downdraft systems have effective odour removal systems also, so you arent expelling heated air from your house. If you find on the odd occasion that odours still linger, you will have to open the doors or windows anyways so you are in the same place as a ducted system. This is assuming that the ducted system is installed with the right ducting and correctly (not often the case). A good ceiling recessed extractor with onboard motor will cost you around £1500-1800. The hob will cost you between 750-900 for a 4 zone 80cm unit from a reputable brand. Add some money for ducting and installation. Ultimately this is the best solution for you if cost was not a problem. If it is, a recirc system is your solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeepotclaire Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, ryder72 said: A good ceiling recessed extractor with onboard motor will cost you around £1500-1800. The hob will cost you between 750-900 for a 4 zone 80cm unit from a reputable brand. Add some money for ducting and installation. Ultimately this is the best solution for you if cost was not a problem. If it is, a recirc system is your solution. Thanks for responding. I take on board your comments re: downdraft systems. Certainly food for thought! And in relation to your comment re: a good ceiling extractor with a powerful onboard motor, can you recommend a make or model? Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeepotclaire Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 @ryder72 Also the distance from our worktop to the ceiling would be about 2m so do you still think a ceiling extractor with powerful external motor would work better? Btw, if the motor is powerful does that also mean 'noisy'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Novy make the quietest ones on the market. Look at their Pureline range. Ultimately you have to accept that anything you put in will come with compromises. And a no compromises system will cost money. So you need to find something that sits within your budget and make your peace with the compromises it brings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeepotclaire Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 hours ago, ryder72 said: Good products but frightfully expensive. Fundamentally not better than anything mainstream on the market but will branding. Yes the product is expensive but we have used Gaggenau for quite a few years and the quality is second to none. The oven(Gaggenau) we had at a previous house we took with us when we moved as it was in as good a condition as when it was new and then it was 13 years old. We like the product and to us it is worth the cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 We settled on a "chimney" type island extractor. It was a very difficult thing to buy, probably one of the hardest kitchen items to choose. The first problem is there are not many to choose from, and that is compounded by the fact we could not find ANYWHERE to actually go and look at any. The only white goods shop left in Inverness had NONE on sale. Pathetic. So we had to buy on line trusting pictures and dimensions and our own judgement visualising that. Then had to battle with some suppliers wanting silly money for delivery further limiting the choices. We ended up with one from B&Q When it came to fitting it, it was one of the most awkward things to fit. You fix a bracket to the ceiling. That is the easy bit. The hood then hangs from that on 4 "legs" These legs are 2 parts and are "telescopic" so I assembled them at their shortest extension only to find when it was fitted it hung down way too low, lower than it's specification suggested, so low if you leaned over to stir something in a pan you hit your head on it (and I am not exactly tall). so down it came again. The only way I got it high enough (and still not as high as the instructions suggested was possible) was to use just one of the two telescopic parts but that needed re drilling a set of holes at one end to match the ceiling bracket. That has got it above head height, but still not as high as the instructions suggested. The only way you could achieve that is with a hacksaw and more re drilling of holes. And it is a 3 man job to fit it, you have to assemble the complete thing then lift it up and screw it to the ceiling bracket, so 2 people to lift it and hold it while the third goes round fitting the screws. That is a lot of waffle to say a chimney type island hood probably works better and is less bodgery to fit if you have a taller than usual ceiling. At a standard 2.4M ceiling you may find yourself struggling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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