Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 My electrics tripped again when not on site . Decided to remove the ups to eliminate that . I notice some water on the edge of this shelf precisely under the nas ! Assuming a leak from above - nothing . Perhaps tracking down a cable - nothing . You’ll see the shelf is dusty / dirty with no obvious tracking marks . Could a nas generate condensation???! Underground of course . No heating . Possible ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 Before anyone says I’m aware of the ingress of water on the floor in the corner . This is directly beneath my utility access hole . I foamed that now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 Top of nas - dusty but no indication of water . Underside - if you zoom in you can see droplets . I’m assuming I’ve got 3 problems here 1 ) water down utility pipe - now foamed 2 ) something tripping rcd - blame ups for now 3 ) nas condensation ?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Could it be dripping down from the walk on glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: Could it be dripping down from the walk on glass? Assuming you are being funny . But no it’s not under the glazing . Zero water tracks on ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Is it worth running a dehumidifier in there for a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: Is it worth running a dehumidifier in there for a bit? Maybe! Just got home i.e. off site and it looks like the electrics have tripped again!. So no UPS and no NAS. Just a router and a small file server AARRGGHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Raise the NAS up on some blocks for a bit. Could be the hot NAS / cold shelf interface. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: Raise the NAS up on some blocks for a bit. Could be the hot NAS / cold shelf interface. Yeah this is what I’m thinking . I can position the nas upstairs ; to eliminate the issue of ‘condensation’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Ufh is in and works . But it’s either all on or all off . Need to look at the ufh manifold and see if I can manually just leave 1 ufh loop on and the others closed ; just to warm it up down there Edited December 20, 2020 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Your MVHR isn't going yet is it? Might make a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Can I ask what the equipment is for? im sure you probably have this info in another thread, just interested that’s all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Onoff said: Your MVHR isn't going yet is it? Might make a world of difference. Nah it’s off . Too worried about sucking up dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, TonyT said: Can I ask what the equipment is for? im sure you probably have this info in another thread, just interested that’s all HA , ip cameras , file storage , streaming , whole house audio etc etc etc - anything else I can think of ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Can you get a look inside the guts of the NAS? I've seen some horrors in the enclosures of external kit, water literally running down components that then go t!ts up. Often a tell tale smell (like TCP). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbish Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 It's strangely mild weather in Bristol last couple of days. My unheated shell of a building is colder inside than out with condensate on all the exposed steels. Get some warmth into the place if you can 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 If the house is sealed up, run a dehumidifier and a couple of oil filled electric radiators to get everything up to 18 degrees. It should heat up in a day or so and retain the heat just fine. You should not then have any further condensation issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Started unplugging things off this rcd . Trips eventually. Just now tripped with just a surge protected extension lead plugged in . But nothing plugged into that ! If it trips now I’ll remove that also - the assumption being it will trip with zero load - so a problem for my sparky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, pocster said: Started unplugging things off this rcd . Trips eventually. Just now tripped with just a surge protected extension lead plugged in . But nothing plugged into that ! If it trips now I’ll remove that also - the assumption being it will trip with zero load - so a problem for my sparky Could be as simple as a loose neutral somewhere. Worth checking all your CU connections INCLUDING the factory ones. Often overlooked. That and test the RCD along with a ramp test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Onoff said: Could be as simple as a loose neutral somewhere. Worth checking all your CU connections INCLUDING the factory ones. Often overlooked. That and test the RCD along with a ramp test. Yeah he’s pretty good . He will check it all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Well there we go . Rcd trips with zero load on it . SWMBO was blaming my ‘dodgy’ HA ... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, pocster said: Well there we go . Rcd trips with zero load on it . SWMBO was blaming my ‘dodgy’ HA ... ?? Neutral earth fault? You need it checking. Have you done all the dead tests? IR between N & E? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Onoff said: Neutral earth fault? You need it checking. Have you done all the dead tests? IR between N & E? That’s all the sparkys job ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, pocster said: That’s all the sparkys job ! Dead testing should have shown up any NE faults tbh unless subsequent works have caused it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 unplugged the extension lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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