Onoff Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, pocster said: Just had a brilliant thought! - the LIFT COULD HAVE A GLASS FLOOR!!! ? Pervert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Onoff said: Pervert. Yes . I think , just think - I have some suitable glazing around here ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, pocster said: also would like to bolt the whole structure to the concrete wall. Is it an actual cast concrete or concrete block wall? Only asking because "wall mounted" swing jibs are a thing. You would need a bfo vertical column however, about 3m higher than where you would be lifting say an upright freezer from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Onoff said: Is it an actual cast concrete or concrete block wall? Only asking because "wall mounted" swing jibs are a thing. You would need a bfo vertical column however, about 3m higher than where you would be lifting say an upright freezer from. Well ! its hollow interlocking concrete Lego blocks - with steel added and then concrete poured into the whole structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 One of these would be ideal... http://www.gulfcoastcargolifts.com/cargo-lifts/4582276255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, pocster said: Now we're cooking. Any photo's of your creation? sorry, no but I just bought one of those I posted and put a couple of scaffold poles sticking out the side to winch stuff up.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, joe90 said: sorry, no but I just bought one of those I posted and put a couple of scaffold poles sticking out the side to winch stuff up.. ok . So how do you fix the winch to the scaffolding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reiver Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, pocster said: ok . So how do you fix the winch to the scaffolding? From @joe90 's pic it appears to have a couple of clamps on the top. Good price for a unit like that, might just buy myself one for the workshop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, joe90 said: Stupid question but shouldn't the gantry be supported the otherwise?. I've no idea how strong a scaff pole is taking any weight like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 https://www.screwfix.com/p/hilka-pro-craft-250kg-electric-hoist/49927?tc=MT8&ds_kid=92700046638549236&ds_rl=1243318&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=CjwKCAjwx9_4BRAHEiwApAt0zmiYhGkryHs6GUYHjZoU9BYpvOnVSZZQWLSoE0dtcI2WdEHl1XMm9xoCLmwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds and https://www.screwfix.com/p/hilka-pro-craft-hoist-support-arm-600kg/2240r depends what weight you want to lift, I think the above is rated at 250kg. that other one in the picture is about £1400 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, joe90 said: https://www.screwfix.com/p/hilka-pro-craft-250kg-electric-hoist/49927?tc=MT8&ds_kid=92700046638549236&ds_rl=1243318&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=CjwKCAjwx9_4BRAHEiwApAt0zmiYhGkryHs6GUYHjZoU9BYpvOnVSZZQWLSoE0dtcI2WdEHl1XMm9xoCLmwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds and https://www.screwfix.com/p/hilka-pro-craft-hoist-support-arm-600kg/2240r depends what weight you want to lift, I think the above is rated at 250kg. that other one in the picture is about £1400 ? STAR!. I want to go up and down on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, pocster said: Stupid question but shouldn't the gantry be supported the otherwise?. I've no idea how strong a scaff pole is taking any weight like that. we didn’t winch much weight but we triangulated poles to stop the poles bending. What weight are you looking to lift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, joe90 said: we didn’t winch much weight but we triangulated poles to stop the poles bending. What weight are you looking to lift? I can't imagine any more than 120kg . But if it's fun, might get a few friends on it for a ride. So you just got 3 scaff poles and made a tee-pee type shape? I was genuinely thinking 4 poles ; 1 per corner - lift shaft style for strength and stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Bloke in Porthcawl selling 5m scissor lifts for £450. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pop-up-scissor-lift/254484142815?hash=item3b406fdadf:g:pBwAAOSwoMFeIY2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Onoff said: Bloke in Porthcawl selling 5m scissor lifts for £450. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pop-up-scissor-lift/254484142815?hash=item3b406fdadf:g:pBwAAOSwoMFeIY2p Sounds like a dodgy Welsh place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Onoff said: Bloke in Porthcawl selling 5m scissor lifts for £450. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pop-up-scissor-lift/254484142815?hash=item3b406fdadf:g:pBwAAOSwoMFeIY2p Won't I need a scissor lift though to get the scissor lift down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Found this in the screwfix reviews " Purchased this hoist for loft conversions, lifted 2 steels with no problem, use with a sheet clamp it shifted ply and plasterboard without a problem Wished id bought it sooner " ?. I should be on commission 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, joe90 said: Found this in the screwfix reviews " Purchased this hoist for loft conversions, lifted 2 steels with no problem, use with a sheet clamp it shifted ply and plasterboard without a problem Wished id bought it sooner " ?. I should be on commission I think this is the way to go. I'll contact a scaff seller and propose what I'm planning to do - see how helpful ( or comical ) they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, pocster said: So you just got 3 scaff poles and made a tee-pee type shape? No, house had full scaffolding, we extended a vertical above our head when on the top lift, additional pole from top of this back to inner set of scaffold to stop pole bending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, joe90 said: No, house had full scaffolding, we extended a vertical above our head when on the top lift, additional pole from top of this back to inner set of scaffold to stop pole bending. Got you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) How about this, pole in corner of basement fixed to walls, then this above (excuse the drawing). Duh, can’t rotate it! Edited July 22, 2020 by joe90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, pocster said: I would have started a fire under it - fresh steak !! If setting fire to a live cow is your idea of BBQ, remind me never to come round for dinner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 12 hours ago, joe90 said: How about this, pole in corner of basement fixed to walls, then this above (excuse the drawing). Duh, can’t rotate it! Rotating it won't be an issue if I have a platform and have the winch much higher - literally like a lift. I need to think how the winch connects to the platform ; otherwise I'll have steel cable going from each corner of the platform to a point above causing a much smaller area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 My crap drawing proposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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