Pocster Posted February 18, 2020 Author Posted February 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, PeterStarck said: So that white strip is non removable and therefore you can't screw through the metal and replace the white strip? Where is the door stop? Exactly . The door stop ( as I understand it ) is in the anti slam mechanism in the horizontal header rail . I haven’t installed this yet as I don’t have the door . The instructions also ‘suggest’ screwing the metal frame from the rear which seems absurd - some kind of fixing would of helped
Gone West Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, pocster said: The instructions also ‘suggest’ screwing the metal frame from the rear which seems absurd - some kind of fixing would of helped There doesn't seem any option other than to glue it.
Pocster Posted February 18, 2020 Author Posted February 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, PeterStarck said: There doesn't seem any option other than to glue it. Glue metal to timber ? Was going to foam it .
Barney12 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, pocster said: Glue metal to timber ? Was going to foam it . CT1 all day long. In fact the instructions with my frame kit for my eclisse door recommends attaching with silicone. 1
Pocster Posted February 18, 2020 Author Posted February 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Barney12 said: CT1 all day long. In fact the instructions with my frame kit for my eclisse door recommends attaching with silicone. Really ? Is there nothing CT1 can’t do ?
Onoff Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, pocster said: Really ? Is there nothing CT1 can’t do ? Yeah, its useless at stopping hydraulic oil leaking (not under pressure even). Just leave it for 36 hours to go off. Edited February 18, 2020 by Onoff
Barney12 Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 10 hours ago, pocster said: Really ? Is there nothing CT1 can’t do ? It really is impressive. It’s bonds metal to wood with ease.
Gone West Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 13 hours ago, pocster said: Glue metal to timber ? Was going to foam it . I use Soudal MS Clear, sticks anything. http://www.soudal.eu/soudalweb/productDetail.aspx?w=9&p=410&ID=1994
Pocster Posted February 19, 2020 Author Posted February 19, 2020 Well ! Eclisse didn’t tell me this ! But ..... Apparently with a glass door you get a wooden doorstop post ( !! ) that glues over that vertical . So you can screw through the face of it . None the less I’ll wait for the actual door to turn up .... 1
Pocster Posted February 19, 2020 Author Posted February 19, 2020 Here’s the exert “ It’s a wooden doorpost designed the cover the current doorpost which converts it to suit the glass door. It’s glued over the top of the doorpost for the wooden door I believe, which would cover up the screw heads. “ whatever ! Sounds like a bodge too me !
Gone West Posted February 20, 2020 Posted February 20, 2020 @pocster Well I wouldn't want to rely solely on an anti slam mechanism in the header rail with a glass door but as you say having a wooden cover piece sounds like an easy way out. My door post has a rubber T piece inset into a groove which acts as a soft stop. I'm sure with more thought they could have designed the white piece on your frame to incorporate a soft stop. 1
Pocster Posted February 20, 2020 Author Posted February 20, 2020 57 minutes ago, PeterStarck said: @pocster Well I wouldn't want to rely solely on an anti slam mechanism in the header rail with a glass door but as you say having a wooden cover piece sounds like an easy way out. My door post has a rubber T piece inset into a groove which acts as a soft stop. I'm sure with more thought they could have designed the white piece on your frame to incorporate a soft stop. Yeah . What I don’t like is the instructions don’t mention any of this . I really had to push them for an explanation of how this all works . Will update once I have door and post etc .
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 Reluctantly back at this . The multiple sets of instructions and complete confusion is a nightmare. Understanding this is more difficult than building the f ing house . Doors beautiful though ...
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 Like this . On the left shows an ‘end’ stop type thing in both pictures . Then beneath it shows the end clip crossed out . So need end clip don’t need end clip ? Perhaps it’s me ( probably) or perhaps it’s just confusing . Trial and errors going to be a dog as door weighs 45kg
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 Or they send me 2 anti slam kits - so I have no idea which to use ( or how exactly it works ) - both different lengths f ing Eclisse - hate them . Even their technical support didn’t seem to know - of course they are all in self isolation now ffs !
Temp Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, pocster said: Like this . On the left shows an ‘end’ stop type thing in both pictures . Then beneath it shows the end clip crossed out . So need end clip don’t need end clip ? Perhaps it’s me ( probably) or perhaps it’s just confusing . Trial and errors going to be a dog as door weighs 45kg Pretty sure it's telling you to remove the end clip and put it in the bin (personally I'd hang on to it just in case). 1
Temp Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, pocster said: Or they send me 2 anti slam kits - so I have no idea which to use ( or how exactly it works ) - both different lengths f ing Eclisse - hate them . Even their technical support didn’t seem to know - of course they are all in self isolation now ffs ! What's written on the label on the clear plastic box? I'm wondering if you have anti slam kits for both wood and glass doors. Edited March 27, 2020 by Temp 1
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Temp said: What's written on the label on the clear plastic box? I'm wondering if you have anti slam kits for both wood and glass doors. Quite possibly ! Also the sliding vertical track confuses me . You’ve got the sliding bits . But there’s another track in there that moves - don’t understand that at all . Also have the ‘double side ‘ anti slam . It shows a single door ( not double ) so assumed anti slam on opening and closing ... I’ve gone with the Rallenty one for now .But the sliding metal has a ‘bit’ that stops the runner .... Better photo of slidy rail inside rail . Also the bump that stops everything !
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 There ! Took slidy rail out ( on the left ) this was in the rail on the right so naturally assumed that was correct ; as it was supplied like that . But as I have seen Eclisse send more stuff and variations of instructions because they presumably don’t know what you need . I actually was sent 3 anti slam kits ( 2 of the ‘doubles ‘ ) . Countless frame instructions synthesis line ,vitro ,bias . Dead helpful !
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 Ok . Trying to lift a 45kg door onto these bolts ( that slide ) ain’t going to work !
Temp Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 Did you see this video?.. It covers the wood door but shows how some bits go together. 1
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 I just don’t get how the anti slam works . I don’t see how the plastic white clip part ‘catches’ anything to cause it to work .
Gone West Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 4 hours ago, pocster said: So need end clip don’t need end clip ? I have similar end clips, which on mine hold the door open very simply by gripping the glass in the spring C shaped bit. Mine is much older though and very different to yours in other ways. 1
Pocster Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Temp said: Did you see this video?.. It covers the wood door but shows how some bits go together. Yeah I have watched that . Can’t tell if he has that other slidy bit in the rail - I’ve removed mine anyway for now !
Temp Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, pocster said: I just don’t get how the anti slam works . I don’t see how the plastic white clip part ‘catches’ anything to cause it to work . I found these instructions which appear similar but only have one white "catch" rather than two. https://www.eclisse.co.uk/content/installation-accessories/603024103%20Scheda%20Rallenty%20BIAS.pdf I think it might catch on the shaped end of "Item C". Does your kit have the same or similar part? Edited March 27, 2020 by Temp 1
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