brian Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Hello, I'm going building a house in the South West of Ireland with the fabric first approach. I have purchased PHPP and trying to DIY it. Is it Ok to have more Insulation in Floor and Roof than the walls? Floor = 0.108 Walls = 0.15 Roof = 0.117 Or should the U-value's be more even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 While the U value is important Its easy to get obsessed with numbers Whilst ours isnt passive we achieved a good U value A large very warm and cheap to heat house All done DIY Worth twice the build cost Including the land purchase I think it’s important that you finish up with a home that suits your needs and budget and also looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_L Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 hello and welcome, Your U-values are fine, though I would try and reduce the wall value if possible. The reason to keep U-values similar is principally to prevent condensation on the higher value areas but this is on a much higher difference, e.g. the latest Scottish regs ask for walls averaging 0.22 but allow local areas of 0.7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The walls usually have the least with the roof the highest. It's much easier to lay 300-400mm of loft insulation but if you put that much in a cavity then it can cause many more issues like much longer wall ties, closing the cavity etc. As long as it's total is good is the main objective. Don't forget any window or door you put in no matter how high tech it is will still be at least 3/4 times as high a u value as your wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joth Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 While you definitely want to get it all right first time, remember the floor is hardest to upgrade later so if it's a cost tradeoff, don't cut corners on the floor installation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Isolate each element, then calculate losses for each against the expected temperature ranges they experience. Pay special attention to windows and doors, corners and joints, and the often forgotten effects of air movement. Then remember that if all your insulation is open to external air, this can reduce the effective values. When you come to build, unless you are very conscientious, any hidden holes will loose energy. But as our chancellor said "not going to tell you where they are, but you have had 3 years knowing that they are there somewhere". Ok, not what he actually said, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 Thanks for all your reply, It sounds like I'm on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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