A sparky's opinion, please. Quickwire

[Onoff]

39 minutes ago, JSHarris said:

 

 

Wago do a  fairly big range of surface mount brackets for holding most of their connector types, but the usual suspects don't seem to stock them for some reason.  I made up a box with about a dozen of these brackets fixed in a line, when I was wiring up the water treatment plant shed.  Made for a neat installation.  The only place I found that stocked them was Farnell: https://uk.farnell.com/c/connectors/terminal-blocks-accessories/terminal-block-accessories?brand=wago&accessory-type=mounting-carrier

 

Ignore the IMDB Jaws link at the end of my post!

[Carrerahill]

15 hours ago, Ed Davies said:

That is neat. Can you get big versions of that box, like with space for over one hundred 3-way connectors, rather than just five?

If you were going to that qty I would spec up an enclosure with DIN rail(s) and use Din rail mount terminals to make a really neat and easily inspected and tested panel.

 

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/non-fused-din-rail-terminals/5076535/

 

Edited June 14, 2019 by Carrerahill

[Onoff]

Best image I could find. Really annoys me that the undulations in the orange carrier don't line up properly even with two 5's. You get 10 not 11.

 

 

[ToughButterCup]

Here we go: can't wait to have a play with them later on this morning

 

I see there's nothing for a 1.5mm LED lighting wire. That doesn't matter does it?

 

 

[PeterW]

5 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said:

 

 

I see there's nothing for a 1.5mm LED lighting wire. That doesn't matter does it?

 

 

 

That’s that maximum size on the Wago - it will take less. 

 

The ones on the bottom right are good - they take a T&E solid core to one side and then you can push down and put a flexible cable in the other. 

[PeterW]

Oh, and you can de-mount the push on connectors. If you pull gently and twist back and forward they will spiral back up the solid core ... 

[Ed Davies]

5 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said:

I see there's nothing for a 1.5mm LED lighting wire. That doesn't matter does it?

 

The 222-41n things are listed as 28 to 12 AWG which translates as 0.0810 mm² to 3.31 mm² or, more sensibly, 1 to 2.5 mm2. Interesting that they show up to 4 mm² here.

[Jeremy Harris]

FWIW the ones I keep boxes of are 773s and 224s.  773s will pretty much cover most rigid wire connection requirements in everyday stuff and 224s are useful for connecting rigid wire to flex.

[PeterW]

4 minutes ago, JSHarris said:

FWIW the ones I keep boxes of are 773s and 224s.  773s will pretty much cover most rigid wire connection requirements in everyday stuff and 224s are useful for connecting rigid wire to flex.

 Funny but I have boxes of both of those but prefer the 222’s as sometimes when you have a lot of connections together it can be easier to move things about to tidy up and then put the more permanent connections in. I also like the Wago junction boxes as they keep things nice and tidy. 

[ToughButterCup]

Is there any rationale for the WAGO numbering system, is it arbitrary?

[PeterW]

45 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said:

Is there any rationale for the WAGO numbering system, is it arbitrary?

 

Its German .... ?

[Ed Davies]

First and last digits of the second group seem to be meaningful: first digit is 1 for 2.5mm², 4 for 4mm² and 6 for 6mm², last digit is number of ways. First digit of first group is 2 for clamp and 7 for push. I don't doubt there's more to it than I've extrapolated from a small sample.

 

What's the point of the 224-101 (1 x 2.5mm²)? All I can think of is terminating the earth in a plastic light switch or ceiling rose which isn't loop in/out.

[ToughButterCup]

2 hours ago, PeterW said:

Its German .... ?

 

Right, that does it. Gonna do some digging .?

[Jeremy Harris]

36 minutes ago, Ed Davies said:

What's the point of the 224-101 (1 x 2.5mm²)? All I can think of is terminating the earth in a plastic light switch or ceiling rose which isn't loop in/out.

 

They take a solid core wire one side and a stranded core the other side.  The solid core pushes in and locks, and the stranded core is fitted by squeezing the lever down, inserting the wire and then letting go so it grips.  They are ideal for wiring lights, where you have a bit of 1mm² or 1.5mm² solid wire that needs to connect to a stranded wire that is connected to the light fitting.

[Ed Davies]

So they're fibbing, it's really a two connection points: 1 solid and 1 stranded? And the 224-112 is really three way: 2 solid (for loop in/out, presumably) and 1 stranded.

[Onoff]

5 hours ago, AnonymousBosch said:

Is there any rationale for the WAGO numbering system, is it arbitrary?

 

Don't you lot spell it arbeitary? 

[ToughButterCup]

18 hours ago, Onoff said:

Don't you lot spell it arbeitary? 

 

Arbeit - ja, schon..... Quatschkopf bist Du....

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Here's the answer folks;

 

Most of our product series follow some logic with their product numbers.

 

E.g. 221-412

 

4 = 4mm²  (the maximum cable size the connector will take)

 

2 = 2 pole connector

 

However, other series follow a different pattern.

 

E.g. 2002-1201

 

2 = 2.5mm² (the maximum cable size the connector will take with a  ferrule)

 

1 = Number of levels – in this case a single level

 

2 = Number of conductors it will connect

 

1 = colour reference (1 = grey, 4 = blue, 7 = green/yellow)

 

It isn’t something that is in our catalogues, as it does differ with each series.

 

Are there any product series you were wanting more information on?

 

Best regards

 

Jennifer Brady

Assistant Product Manager

phone:  +44 1788 568-008

fax:       +44 1788 568-050

<<mailto:jennifer.brady@wago.com>>

 

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