Onoff Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, JSHarris said: Wago do a fairly big range of surface mount brackets for holding most of their connector types, but the usual suspects don't seem to stock them for some reason. I made up a box with about a dozen of these brackets fixed in a line, when I was wiring up the water treatment plant shed. Made for a neat installation. The only place I found that stocked them was Farnell: https://uk.farnell.com/c/connectors/terminal-blocks-accessories/terminal-block-accessories?brand=wago&accessory-type=mounting-carrier Ignore the IMDB Jaws link at the end of my post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerahill Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, Ed Davies said: That is neat. Can you get big versions of that box, like with space for over one hundred 3-way connectors, rather than just five? If you were going to that qty I would spec up an enclosure with DIN rail(s) and use Din rail mount terminals to make a really neat and easily inspected and tested panel. https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/non-fused-din-rail-terminals/5076535/ Edited June 14, 2019 by Carrerahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Best image I could find. Really annoys me that the undulations in the orange carrier don't line up properly even with two 5's. You get 10 not 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 Here we go: can't wait to have a play with them later on this morning I see there's nothing for a 1.5mm LED lighting wire. That doesn't matter does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: I see there's nothing for a 1.5mm LED lighting wire. That doesn't matter does it? That’s that maximum size on the Wago - it will take less. The ones on the bottom right are good - they take a T&E solid core to one side and then you can push down and put a flexible cable in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Oh, and you can de-mount the push on connectors. If you pull gently and twist back and forward they will spiral back up the solid core ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: I see there's nothing for a 1.5mm LED lighting wire. That doesn't matter does it? The 222-41n things are listed as 28 to 12 AWG which translates as 0.0810 mm² to 3.31 mm² or, more sensibly, 1 to 2.5 mm2. Interesting that they show up to 4 mm² here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 FWIW the ones I keep boxes of are 773s and 224s. 773s will pretty much cover most rigid wire connection requirements in everyday stuff and 224s are useful for connecting rigid wire to flex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, JSHarris said: FWIW the ones I keep boxes of are 773s and 224s. 773s will pretty much cover most rigid wire connection requirements in everyday stuff and 224s are useful for connecting rigid wire to flex. Funny but I have boxes of both of those but prefer the 222’s as sometimes when you have a lot of connections together it can be easier to move things about to tidy up and then put the more permanent connections in. I also like the Wago junction boxes as they keep things nice and tidy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 Is there any rationale for the WAGO numbering system, is it arbitrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: Is there any rationale for the WAGO numbering system, is it arbitrary? Its German .... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 First and last digits of the second group seem to be meaningful: first digit is 1 for 2.5mm², 4 for 4mm² and 6 for 6mm², last digit is number of ways. First digit of first group is 2 for clamp and 7 for push. I don't doubt there's more to it than I've extrapolated from a small sample. What's the point of the 224-101 (1 x 2.5mm²)? All I can think of is terminating the earth in a plastic light switch or ceiling rose which isn't loop in/out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, PeterW said: Its German .... ? Right, that does it. Gonna do some digging .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, Ed Davies said: What's the point of the 224-101 (1 x 2.5mm²)? All I can think of is terminating the earth in a plastic light switch or ceiling rose which isn't loop in/out. They take a solid core wire one side and a stranded core the other side. The solid core pushes in and locks, and the stranded core is fitted by squeezing the lever down, inserting the wire and then letting go so it grips. They are ideal for wiring lights, where you have a bit of 1mm² or 1.5mm² solid wire that needs to connect to a stranded wire that is connected to the light fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 So they're fibbing, it's really a two connection points: 1 solid and 1 stranded? And the 224-112 is really three way: 2 solid (for loop in/out, presumably) and 1 stranded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 hours ago, AnonymousBosch said: Is there any rationale for the WAGO numbering system, is it arbitrary? Don't you lot spell it arbeitary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Onoff said: Don't you lot spell it arbeitary? Arbeit - ja, schon..... Quatschkopf bist Du.... ==================================== Here's the answer folks; Most of our product series follow some logic with their product numbers. E.g. 221-412 4 = 4mm2 (the maximum cable size the connector will take) 2 = 2 pole connector However, other series follow a different pattern. E.g. 2002-1201 2 = 2.5mm2 (the maximum cable size the connector will take with a ferrule) 1 = Number of levels – in this case a single level 2 = Number of conductors it will connect 1 = colour reference (1 = grey, 4 = blue, 7 = green/yellow) It isn’t something that is in our catalogues, as it does differ with each series. Are there any product series you were wanting more information on? Best regards Jennifer Brady Assistant Product Manager phone: +44 1788 568-008 fax: +44 1788 568-050 <<mailto:jennifer.brady@wago.com>> WAGO Limited Triton Park Swift Valley Ind. Est. Rugby Warwickshire CV21 1SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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