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Folks can we keep to the topic @Roz started, please?

I think a Mods perspective would be useful. It's a sometimes demanding, always thankless task done for free in our own time. Mods , almost all self builders themselves, make mistakes too. We get testy, piddled off, write in haste, just like everyone else. And from a native Bosch to you @Oz07, I would agree, nobody likes even a hint of ze Gestapo. (Heil Hitler! wenn Ihn Du Ihn siehst ?) All of us can choose to say or write nothing. Especially useful technique if you feel 'got at'. There is an Ignore User button. Scroll over the member's name and choose Ignore User. @Roz, apologies for the diversion. I'm very interested in this thread because I've messed up my eaves. What have you decided to do ? .... I don't think I have the space for soffit strips

I agree wholeheartedly. Asynchronous written communication, when drafted in haste, can all too easily lead to misunderstanding. I agree wholeheartedly. Mods make mistakes too. I agree entirely. The Internet is associated with speed of communication, and the gift economy. But writing effective, well thought through posts is not easy. Well written posts are not drafted in haste. Add the stressed and stressing nature of our sector, mix in a few hundred thousand pounds and you have all the ingredients necessary for miscommunication. @Sensus I would much prefer you not to leave us.

Right on Basil ...

We have a Collie called Tess. She has a thing about one of these biteable footballs . It makes no difference where the damn thing is, she never ever gives up. Here the ball landed on the gutter (of our house not Salamander Cottage). She balanced on top of the gate, jumped onto the roof knocked the ball down - then fell off the roof herself. Yelped in pain and promptly ran off to look for the ball. Scaffolding is a big attraction. If she can get on it she will - if her ball is there. That's how some of the rafter ends got dog-eared. And if you believe that, you'll believe anything.

... and I think, trim the rafters back to the wall too .... (?) Thanks very much @Sensus

Thanks for your thougthts, @Sensus Good point. The roof felt isn't dressed down (the) wall by 300 mm. And so it hasn't been fixed to the wall by the battening. The rafters are clearly not flush with the face of the wall. In relation to the first point: I think the reason for that is this (exerpt from a) drawing .... We were meant to put a tilting filet onto the lower end of the battens, so that the membrane projects over the gutter. That tilting filet was never fitted, the membrane just sits loosley over the edge of the gutter. Clearly the two instructions (project down the wall and project over the tilting filet ) are in conflict with one another. In addition, the rafters need to be cut of properly. I think the following needs to happen: the gutter needs to come off a membrane 'skirt' needs to be fitted under the battens, but above the rafter, and project down the wall by 300 mm (thus covering the end of the insulation and the end of the rafters) that membrane needs then to be fixed over the wall membrane (Solitex Fronta Quattro), but beneath the battening for the cladding. There's no point in apportioning blame. What do you think......?

Our eaves are not the best looking in the worls.... This is ugly isn't it: plug ugly in fact. But, it's what the architect ordered : here's an extract from the drawings The bit (above) about the ... PIR cut tightly to suit any spaces left above the Durisol ... is what you see in the image above. To an extent, the ugliness is going to be hidden by our cladding : which kind of makes it worse because then the problem will be partly hidden: and once out of sight it'll be out of mind until the sparrows start nesting in it - because they can squeeze between the gutter and the top piece of cladding. How can I create a robust closure to the gap between the rafters - yes, the rafter tails look like a dog has mauled them, I know!

Using your post as a starting point , Clive, I found this resource : the training resources of the concrete coutner top institute (all free )

Faye would look good in resin hot pants methinks. She's make you proud(er) ?

Coward. ? Where's your sense of advencha man? Says I to the only person who has actually flown around in my kitchen ..... Remember that?

I did ask them.....? Looks like a call to Talis is on the cards then..... Thanks Pete.

Toby: that's the one @scottishjohn : I'll try mine - but in doing so - because the key is so long, I'll need to cross the road , wait for the traffic to die down, and try fitting it from there. Or I suppose I could try cutting it down, and welding the handle back on . That should provide @Declan52 with a laugh....

Two very nice young men came to fit my water meter yesterday yesterday . Very very nice men. They even set the meter to 00000 . That was good of them wannit? But there was a hiccup They didn't have a stop-valve key for this meter : an Atlantic Plastics Intex 2 - the key fits this part of the assembly The key looks as if it fits in the groove on the black plastic. I've tried to source a spare key online, but can't find a supplier. The people I bought the meter from aren't interested (Berrys at Leyland ?) I have a feeling that a pair of mole grips will do the job, but with my extra-special hands I doubt I'd be able to turn a pair of grips in that confined space. Anyone know where to source Intex 2 spares online? The sharper eyed among you will notice a pond of water under the meter. Should I get the water Board back to fix that, or just ignore it? Thanks Ian

Yes. Here you are.

I'm going to enjoy this soooooooooo bloody much .... wait for it ......wwwwaaaait .... Stop over thinking it ...... Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, Get in !

After thinking about it - I realise that I have the perfect tool already (Shaadup @Onoff) An angle grinder guard with mm graduation settings on it. Now all I need is to screw a temporary guide to the wall and run the grinder along it for the requisite distance. ?

Apologies ; into plaster....

I'm wondering if there is a tool for cutting slots for LED tracking. Made a right pigs lug'ol for a 2 meter track yesterday. Needs to be no more than 5mm deep....

Got it in one @Adrian Walker

Yes. Going skip wombling today on the way back from the gym - for waste melamine surfaces ...

Benching mix? Wassat then?

In this sector, that is both true and very sad.

I'll go and take a photo of my stacks and get back to you .....?

Wood: sizes, weights, grades - nightmare. So much shared Internet-based ignorance. I've almost given up because if I do some due diligence before I go and buy, and then talk to the seller about the wood grade, the most common response is " ... Visss iz wot we sell son ... " The only thing to trust is the stamp on the wood itself. I went to see our producer ( ProWood near Wigan) and saw the stacks of wood ready for delivery to us. An order for a couple of thousand merits a visit, I recon. 25 x 150mm FSC Mix 70% US Larch KD 922.67 2,975.61 20.00 595.12 Mach to 18 x 144mm PAR. I asked for that to be de-coded, and was perfectly satisfied with the answer. Here's my Internet search to try and sort stuff out for myself....