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Now that idea has legs I think.. is there a really good quality types, maybe solid? ie that won't warp or bobble over 5 yrs say, being only thin any mfd clad stuff Id have thought 10mm not thick enough to be structurally robust. Anyone seen my type of worktops before? any idea what the recess depth, once tiles out, likely to be with this worktop config I have with these wood edges?

Penny bar? weird.. too leftfield methinks. Take me a week to glue all the coins tho! But I understand the basic idea of filling this recess with something once tiles out.

Onoff.. great suggestion, I think a bit industrial looking for a rustic cottage though, Im not sure about the finish surface if done this way up/ alot of finishing work I think to get it really smooth. Are there any worktops, say a good quality maybe vg solid heavy type, that come in as little as 10mm deep?

Thanks for replies, that looks a great pro job done there.. but a bitch of a job to do that angled edge looks like. The nasty thing about these units in the main, is the tiled tops. Urgh.. the grout's shot & the green tiles jesusHchrist already. But the periphery wood edge, is actually ok. The cheapest thing in principle is take out tiles > redo this 'inner' area. But what~ 10mm max depth? Is this a feasable idea?

These two are not welsh, from lancs. The 64 yr old child with his ox-dog shenanigans from yorks.. I know thats got something to do with it, me a middleclass sth warks/ gloucs (ie he's 'posh cotswolds' claptrap). 2 flippin cats they have. double the mess. mrX was always calling cat in 8pm, gently @ front of house every ev for 2 yrs. Quite pleasant to hear. After her appaling hatred.. both started calling it in loudly & prolonged at border of our gardens -to coax it across my lawn right in front of me- looking at this childishness from my kitchen only metres away (far away from their house). Provocation no Q about it, & now stopped thanfully.. clearly due to CPO telling them to. Cameras are the next step, sigh. Tbh i dont mind the cat on my land, its a lovely cat in fact. But I hate seeing it on my land having been coaxed there, or its mess having been put in places delierately as I think its been, by them, trespassing. The mess was down lower end (always has been) & gave me a reason to scrape it up on a spade- & launch it into their jungle of exotic xyz plants & mini walkway when they weren't in. karma. Now I'll aim for their sitting table area of course. Its them trespassing Im most concerned about, or rather their possible intent: they could easily lean over brook & plant knotweed sprigs without ANY evidence to show for a good while > move > I'll have a huge problem in, & for years to come taking off £15k from my house value, maybe more if its planted close to house (one spot, my window here as I type, is only 6m away from brook/ our border/ perfect place: I need a camera looking down on here defo). I know they want revenge, for they see me as being the cause/ seemingly in total denial she started it from totally out the blue.. total denial.. & JKWeed is something they would definitely have chatted about. Definitely. Its the one thing we all worry about around here: the odd bit springs up along our stream bank (they should have reported if selling the house/ they know this/ adding to their stress levels).. and.. I have alot of it currently being treated too: one reason I was able to afford this, my very 1st house, in the 1st place.

All the cupboard doors & drawer fronts, bar the handles which could be replaced, are all solid wood & fairly good shape. I bet any affordable replacements wouldn't be near as solid. Can all the other stuff like the faux wood shelvy bits, strips below doors, & the white chipboard drawers etc.. can these all be replaced for doors to go back onto to £save a chunk? or is that not worth it/ its a rip the lot out job bin the doors & start again.

Hi cherryF.. I have a router/ use frequently, but not a 'worktop jig'.. what is this exactly? anything I can make? I can fit/ jigsaw a new sink into a top/ placcy plumbing bits & a few compression joints I can do ok. Im pretty sure of this bit. Due to the L shape/ I assume a tricky 45* joining of 2 sections at the top (I could do underside if just router work) & this odd cut off edge bit in foreground.. would you suggest its a kitchen fitter job do the lot?

newhome I can't say I've ever known such a hectic life with so much worry re. work.. that must be dreadful to affect your whole days like that: I've come out here to escape stress/ hassle: I had to move from my prior address directly due to another sod n'bor/ this one such a bully as to berate his wife> huge arguments, a particularly nasty sod I confronted & he was very agressive.. & so guess what.. I had to call the police > CPO out). This damn tree.. not even of note now. All this work I did, under the assumption her vitriolic episode was due to my asking mrX to trim it (I meekly said midway thru her diatribe 'I only asked if I could trim it mrsX..' my jaw agape.. & she just continued: she gave me no reason to think her beef was about anything else). All the calls to land regisrty/ council/ councillor/ pages printed at library/ pics of tree printed for reference.. all this time & effort....... & they say to CPO "not our tree/ we told him he could cut it even borrow our ladder" making out I caused the situation for -some -other -reason. Bizarre. I still don't know what her beef was, my how dare he ask "threat" of trimming a bit, or something else? The last time I spoke to each of them days before we were fine, even a joke all normal n'bor chat. So how could she be like this out the blue? Even if she made up a spurious reason that I'd made a comment about his recently rip'd wife (which I didn't- but the CPO mentioned s'thing along these lines she said/ more confusion) it couldn't result in such vitriol, as she'd have known it to be factually spurious, & would be acting. Last 2 'logical' reasons are: 1) she has mental issues, or 2)... she 's been coerced into believing something that wasn't said. No rreason why mrX would get her into such a pickle, they're a unit pretty firmly so. So Im left thinking someone else persuaded her. But Im not in contact with anyone else to have falsified "ooh I overheard zoot say xyz about your husband's ma/ I'd be furious". But, this though, still seems the most plausible reason for starting her outburst as she's shown no sign of mental issues chatting, the odd drinky evening, even invites on *xmas day to their house.. on the contrary: all very good n'bor stuff/ *exceptionally good. I have the very person/ woman in mind too, the persuader it could have been. But no crossed paths beforehand me to her, or me to anyone in her family/ no-one whatsoever friends or anything. A total head***k.

Hi chaps- If you can help: I have generally a bad 80's-diy-disater kitchen, some of I'll be keeping (due to ultra-tight budget).. to revamp myself. To replace 1st: 2 worktops, tricky one is L-shaped, with this (foreground) 45*-off end section being the headache- how. And the join to make 'L'. Is a rounded edge possible instead here? I'm talking 44mm basic worktop, not granite or any fancier stuff. Thanks, zoot

Mods: could you delete this thread for me? wrong place/wrong Q's apologies.

JSHarris thank you so much for your replies, this one is so pertinant. If only I coulod have a bit of your firnds' dignity & class.. What Im experiencing is bullying, minor mental type in the big scheme of things yes (tho not so minor if it affects my health on occasions?). The worst/ the pinnacle of it tho- racism & something that I feel connected to. What a magnificent chap your friend was- sheer dignity, strength & class. On this note I URGE everyone to watch my favourite film (I think should be on the school syllabus/ it is free on youtube)- FIRE IN BABYLON- my greatest film ever made &betterthanCitizenKanebecause: A) its about the bullied beating back SO magnificently, B) its about cricket, C) it has the grooviest soundtrack you'll ever hear ("Don't tell me I'm a blcak b'satrd.... because I'm not": Viv Richards saying this/ so dignified- like your friend). godamm bullies. I leant this film to mrX, that friendly we were, & after mrsX's vitriol, when I was out an hr later cooling off (demanding an apology of her, to mrX in his shop in town) she'd stuffed it back through my letterbox. zoot

Yes you're right- Ive tried to follow this course, but they can see me washing everything (we're so close all I do is seen, as my gdn is just a cleared area/ a blank canvas, them all hidden with exotic plants & bamboo barriers) & aware/ I can't hide here at all from them alas.. they know this & now always appear at btm of their gdn/ v close next to my kitchen to annoy me, unlike before. Amazing that one word- sorry- was all it took from her, after her huge rage/ anger episode (about what I still have no idea- BS that I "said s'thing' about mrX's recently rip'd ma"/ total BS, as if I would!- so this bizarre oddity as to a reason lingers & makes me angry) to have put a line under the whole thing. Even a 1/2 hearted sorry I'd have (grudgingly) accepted. One word. But no, they choose to make ME 'the problem/ the cause' (the damn audacity & lunacy makes my blood boil if I think on it) refusing to apologise > but instead both provoke me to rub my nose in it, getting themselves a CPO visit as a result, & a reported issue with a n'bor to hinder their selling of their house. EH??! If they were inbred I could rationalise things somewhat: but they both have degrees, mrX has two & clearly very intelligent.. it beggars belief.

Hey guys sorry Ive been a bit down in dumps/ & didnt see any replies had been made since my last spiel. Hugely appreciate the support. I actually said to the CPO how 'you guys'/ a great forum I stumbled upon, as I have, has been more supportive than my entire family. Well mrX now looks v. unhappy about CPO visit, their call to the CPO themselves having backfired into a visit to them, as it did.. now he's eying up my hedges (i suspect either criminal damage/ obvious.. or what im cocncerned about: planting knotweed sprigs xy&z places, as they could easily do with their expertise & prevelance of available source in field opposite us, in easily hidden areas I couldn't cover with cameras). I already suspect they've put cat faeces in my planting patch I had ready, I think buried just under surface (as they know the cats make me angry/ my achilles heel to react to) so once all dug over my gloves/ trowel/ trousers & whole patch covered & stinks, & I had to throw out troos/ gloves/ disinfect hands 5x until smell gone (I even thought it might be human so strong it was). £15 that cost me. THIS is a depressing course, but, Im leaving it to chance/ the cat alone (likely both put out for the whole nights now so I have double the ammount as before) for now or I'll just get depressed about it. Its not tho. If happens again- on my next area, then undeniably deliberate/ another CPO call > visit & a caution? Im now having to consider cameras.. sigh. The damn tree now is a distant thing/ a bygone. People can be so dreadful: this is one, perhaps the main reason I choose to live alone/ chosen to live out in rural wales to get away form a fair bit of other nonsense from people.

I really appreciate the help here, support if it can be called as such.. that's how I deem it: best of the www I don't hesitate to say that/ better help than my family by fathoms. I will look into the sprinkler.. but its a long garden of 100+ yds (not bad for 125k eh? half of it "I bought by mistake" the seller didnt know hers let alone the estate agents, so overgrown/ wasteland so it was.. hence cats used to it as WC their whole lives) so not easy or cheap. chicken wire to usual to/ fro spots 1st thing: a days work alone, but maybe a precursor to my ferocious, savage...... WHIPPET who might now make an earlier appearance in my life (Wilbur he shall be called.. whoever he might be!). Now THAT's the tonic for cat problems. But its not the cats.. its then owners of course.

Had to call police last night.. sods provocatively loudly calling cats over my garden > things bound across & I see/ angry & it all kicked off/ to & fro of words & anger. 2nd time Ive been onto 101/ CPO (minor police stuff) re. her. They called police them same time. But as Id called before, 2nd time now then.. the CPO parked @ theirs/ 2 vists, with 1 to me between. I got a minor bllking re words, ok, but they got a shock the squad car & focus was on them, & all concilliatory apparantly "not our tree- he can cut" as well as some awful lies I'd said s'thing about his recently rip'd Ma (on contrary I offered my symapthies, gently at the time, now 3 months ago, & I've not mentioned her since.. why would I have?). CPO understood my pov I could tell thank goodness. But for gods sake: all this toxic atmos & vile hatred, ruined relations.. & they admit its not their tree. Utter childishness. Problem now tho.. they'll up the provocation re. cats & now visible all the time in front of my windows/ back area talking loudly etc. The CPO couldn't agree they were being provocative too: frustratingly. Same shenanigans from another n'bor (friend of theirs- oh what a coincidence) opposite with a big heavy very out of control dog/ onto my property etc, mess & bins being launched about. ~65 yr olds these lot are. My 1st house this is. Pathetic childishness. NOT welsh these 3.. english from up north, ganging up on the new southener guy on his own no less.

Just had a MAJOR bust up with her.. I hear them calling in their cat/ deliberately close to me.. s'thing's up I think.. & the damn thing bounds right down & across my garden & I hit the roof. Deliberate provocation. I'm getting this on TWO sides, these two & this sod man with his dog (unsuccessfully now- I warded it off with a rake so thinks twice now) the other side. In leagues with each other/ friends as they are. Pathetic. CSPO officer is coming round in a bit. Prob give me a bllking for launching stones at the cat.. but my call, & a 2nd call to him after her abuse before. Maybe I can get this provocation to stop.

This amused me, thanks eG.. I know that's the correct approach: when you hear her call her damn cat across my gdn deliberately, knowing Im mad about them using it as a WC, I fly out the door tho stones flying/ sorry I can't adhere to what i should do at times. I hate these cats now. The game plan is ideal & points noted; but its in their interest mostly to not have anymore episodes like the nasty one again.. so they can't really kick off can they? in theory that is. BUT they can get the 'other couple I mention' to cut my hedge down 'for them', as they want to do anyway.. then I have no prrof of xyz & they're all laughing at me. Ive had these other n'bors complain > council comes out > I get stressed, but thankfully they say my hed=ge ok where it is "just dont let it grow more" (its on a corner/ these sods just getting at me/ control thing).

How sweet of you to say. My tree (prob for the thread) & the nasty dog-owner are english (so I feel I can throw it back at them in an odd way). The main protagonist tho, & 1 other similarly-aged (just retired > bored- much of the core reason) nasty man only ~really Ive experienced anti-englishness from. But that means 95% have been nice so don't feel ashamed at all/ you are still WAAAY more tolerant as a whole than us english pigs! Its that generation, not the young thankfully. They're of a generation whose heyday was the 80's.. all competition & bettering the jones's.. tory policy seeped into the influenced. That's my opinion. Seriously, even those TV ads were all do this to get one over your n'bor.. flymo/vs this. ford vs that. Turgid, soul-destroying filth. You see I have some anger in me.. Ive counted 14 folks who've been rude, nasty, or mean to me since I moved here (9 english, 5 welsh. So there you are!).. I still love the place hugely despite all this: THAT'S how beautiful wales is, & the lovely welsh people who have been nice to me.

Very astute. 64 I think, had to take a few days off bc the rabbit died, terribly upset when her m-in-law went intio a home/ huge stress. weird. then when she died & I gave my sympathies.. 'oh thats ok -didnt like her anyway' in a blunt blackburn way. Eh? those don't tally. His reaction.. 'thx, well she was 85- & we got 50k we didnt know she had so not all bad'. Then during diatribe she uses died m-in-law as emeotional ammunition: 'you dont know what its like to lose a parent do you like MrX?!? just leave him alone! dont you dare touch that tree!!' through clenched teeth & evil stares like Ive never encountred in my life. Still sore over the ash she didn't get told about coming down last year: a scrawny thing with its bits overhanging (the ash tree's not pretty either).. so yes I think indeed she has 'mental fragility' issues. She also actually talks to the cats, I mean like she's talking to a person.. that's not entirely 'right' in my book too

That sounds awful- my sympathies. These tree n'bors.. we had to get on as these 2 properties are 'joined at the hip', one garden overlooking another/ all sounds heard (theyve got so many plants they can have alot more privacy & able to not be seen.. unlike my just-cleared area I had to do after 20yrs neglected mess).. And we did get on well (actaully I have not fallen out with MrX per se) beery evenings, handmade chocs at xmas, jokes about the 'other couple' I mentioned so we 'bonded' to an extent no Q about it, all proper good n'bor stuff. During cold snap I dropped off 2 bags of logs I cut for them. Next time I see her/ I invite her round for a cheery cuppa- & a vitriolic diatribe Im still picking my jaw off the floor from. Everything changed in 3 mins flat. All atmos totally toxic, & I'm furious about it/ cannot stand the sight of her/ totally unforgiveable. And this woman over the way gleefully rubbing her hands of her handiwork. Jeepers Ive had to keep a lid on.. & that's my weak point too.

I'm an english pig I'm afraid. Ive had a fair bit of anti-english here, from one rudely shoving themselves in midst of a chat, back of head at me 'murmur glad all that was in welsh not english' to make me feel welcome in vllg. But sarcasm, a campaign of nasty evil staring from another n'bor, BUT the main one is one welsh woman another n'bor who didnt like me/ anti-english from 1st moment I met her I sensed.. whose so manipulative & jealous she's getting anyone 'making friends' with me to become enemies. Ive even had a previously lovely student turn nasty & then steal small items from my house (she's the one whose encouraged this previously shy next door woman to become enflamed enough to have had this diatribe at me). PLUS her husband: tries to get his out of control dog onto my property: & dog mess- & a huge dog totally crazy he childishly throws its ball yds from my front drive, thinking Ive no ideas what he's doing, in order to get it to runaround my garden/ at me which it did once & scared me. Just this morning watched him him- throw/ try/ try.. gets bored/ goes inside. pathetic. But he's not welsh, from yorkshire.. thats just his nth/sth thing anti-me. Ive had all sorts of cr*p to tolerate. My 1st house Ive waited 20 yrs to be able to buy. I'l,l tell you what I've got more a thicker skin moreso than the feeling cr*p they used to successfully get me to be. They both always sarcastic waving/ smiling at me to rub it in too, thinking I don;'t know what they're up to/ they're too smart. So juvenile & sad.

I know I'm in my right to cut & give back the cuttings. But its the protocol, in this particular situation, that needs care. Even if we call this tree theirs I can still cut- you can see how big its become/ the stream boundary in only 1m LHS of the bow of the tree you can make out. Its what he might do, what 'protection' I should consider.. cameras in case of retribution (I'm adamant they will do so- but if not caught in act how can I proove? esp if n'bors on other side of me, their friends, have been bullies to me too. Now you see the point of my thread? One odd thing to add to the mix chaps, sorry I forgot to add, is that they're selling up! I know, daft as it sounds/ I mean why would they care so much? well.. 1) they're basically garden snobs snooting over my 1st efforts whio worry excessivley I'll ruin the tree 2) they won't be able to sell it- have tried twice before, old cold stone cttg, garden needs an expert, cramped, no Cheating, corrugated iron roof to one section/ diy built some of it, tiny bunkbed steps to 2 small rooms you can only stand in middle of/ kitchen needs 5k spent, huge beech tree looms over it 5k to chop, gdn OTT now.. a tiny niche market. THIS is why she's angry & stressed/, & taken it out on me. No TPO on the tree btw.

Hi- I bought a cottage in rural wales 2 yrs ago, & now trouble with my neighbours. I'm on my own, with couples around me been here for decades. It hasn't been easy- a fair bit of bullying to me. I share a stream boundary with 1 neighbour, along the long side. We're pretty close by. The issue: I have a few of their trees overhanging, 2 nice hawthorns ok for now, 1 huge Sycamore lower end.. 6m over. Also an ash (at a point 6ft up so say 3/4 of it) which tree surgeons, doing work on a tree of mine c/o PowerCo, said they could cut down FOC. Yes pls! a pain/ big foliage barrier to house view/ light. But 1st permission needed by them > got asap by a signature of MrX in his shop > came back. Job done. When MrsX came back 6pm > stormed round > rude / angry (didnt know- MrX tried to call but mob didnt work he said). I apologised sincerely twice. He was fine about job, rolled his eyes "give her time.. I thought she wanted it down".. "I know, you both told me so before!". They did. A year on & I ask to trim 2m off side of the huge Syc, all I can reach/ not much. Last year MrX advised I did this, an expert's advice to a novice gardener as I am. So MrX says 'yeah no prob' this time as expected. I ask further any idea how I'd get up high to continue 2m line.. 'mm I'll have a word'/ stalling. So I gently said "well I can in theory cut to boundary by law, but won't MrX out of respect, of course I wouldn't". Not threateningly, just a point made. Prior to this he said its NOT his tree 'Water Authority's that.. but we claim it' as its on edge of his & unregistered land: a grey area Ive been unable to clarify as plans are so small/ vague/ hopeless- BUT- woman at LandReg said there's an unregistered thin area, on their side, along whole stream bank dividing us (in which case theyve claimed this too but no issue with lovely plants on it). So this damn thing is most likely on unregistered land, but not established as such. A gentle friendly invite to MrsX last week/ a few basic gardening Q's ok I asked? she came round & blew her top, abuse/ threatening if I should 'dare touch that tree!!' nasty claptrap inc comments re. my parents. Awful behaviour making it out I was to blame. I told her to leave, calmly, but I am furious with her. So, this gives me the opportunity to trim a proper 3.5m off. Not out of spite -no- but bc I need to put a log cabin in my lower garden, 3+m of Syc at the moment is over the top of it, & creating a dark lower area. Tree surgeon came round, MrX glaring at him a few metres away & he was a bit intimidated. Toxic atmosphere. MrX had an episode vs opposite side landowners many yrs ago.. police invloved. So not an easy situation to progress. My builder, no1 in area, a local whose family goes back 10 generations, said 'I can do it.. won't have hassle to me'. Ok the right man for the job. But what about fireworks afterwards? retribution to my trees? what about protocol: do they deserve a warning that I'll be carrying out some tree work? thanks zootH

Ive got onto Stopdigging, seem to be the big groundscrew Co afaict, & getting a quote to me for couple of their guys to come/ put in I think 8 of them needed. Terrific- never even knew what a groundcrew existed until this thread. Will update. thanks zoot

Hi JSHarris, totally understood, thanks for the information. I'd never name real names, either myself/ a**h*le neighbour "Igor" (I get radio alarm clock.. then he get radio alarm clock) no no. Its just general advice & protocol on a simple matter. It just seems full of sensible helpful chaps on here afaict.