Jamie998

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  1. The problem here Jonathan is that the usual sequence of events means that you have to make a decision and action it before you get to the stage where you meet the actual guy tasked by the DNO to do the work. I agree they are generally a pragmatic bunch and more realistic 'on the ground' than the folks sat behind a computer tend to be. Little Britain and 'computer says no' springs to mind.
  2. I have had an electric bill so EON are definitely charging me, Anglian Water don't seem to care. I had a red letter come from Anglian and when I rang up to find out why a red letter had been received but no previous bills, it turned out to be an error - they had mixed my account up with someone else's. When I asked about my bill, the answer seemed to be that I wouldn't get one till I was living there - all seemed a bit strange the conversation, but I gave up trying to clear it all up. I assume that as my water meter was '0' on day dot, when I start paying for water they will bill me for it all anyway, so I will end up paying at some point.
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    Bespoke Inspection Chamber?

    I agree - I am pretty sure 45m from IC to IC. Table 13 of Part H.
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    Pumped Foul Connection

    Adding more inspection chambers is what I want to avoid. My plot was the neighbours garden, there is now a driveway owned by her which I have rights of access for anything and everything I could possibly need over it. There are already two fugly manholes in the drive at the front of her house bordering the drive - we don't need a third! I'm on a mission to minimalize/hide manholes where I can.
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    Backdrop Manhole

    I have permission both from the sewage company and the neighbour. Its all in the deeds that I have right of access for all services etc. etc...(all the i's are dotted and t's crossed so no issues in this regard). When I filled out my foul drainage application form stated I would connect indirectly via neighbour. It currently serves neighbour only so I will be property no.2. No problem with flow capacity of pipe etc., it can support my additional connection. My head tells me to break the neighbours connection, dig a deeper hole, whack in an IC to 1.4m, connect my pipe, connect neighbours pipe as a backdrop connection to the new depth, reconnect to the pipe that connects the outlet to the sewer albeit at a deeper depth. Am I missing something fundamental? P.S. The only contact I have since had with the sewage company is to say 'no you can't bill me yet as the connection hasn't been done yet - ok, ring us when it has - rgr'
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    Backdrop Manhole

    I've paid the connection fee already Peter and they have no problem with me connecting Indirectly - its just the 'how' now. Throwing my conundrum out to the audience in the hope that the collective mind will focus in on the optimal solution to the problem. Many ways to skin a cat - which is cheapest vs easies that is the question!!
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    Pumped Foul Connection

    Pumping isn't my preferred option - no moving parts is Plan A. @ProDave I've just modelled it all in Sketchup, to bring my foul run into the neighbours IC I would need to bring the rest bend up into the concrete slab pretty much so I will have to do something at the Inspection Chamber end.
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    Backdrop Manhole

    I could connect to main sewer - but then it will cost a hell of a lot more and I would have to used an 'Approved Contractor'. This may seem like hassle at the minute but I'm seeing money to be saved - potentially enough not to be sniffed at. There doesn't seem to be any issues with me actually connecting to the manhole - its just the levels that are a problem. There will only be two houses on this connection and without going into the weeds I am not concerned about where responsibility lies in the event of a blockage. If it blocks I'll get some drain rods out and unblock it - simples. If this is done 'right' then should be no more likelihood of it blocking than anyone else's - sometimes s@@t happens and if so it will be dealt with. I've spoken to BC - other than to say it sounds ok I'm on my own. The image is a rough sketch of the current foul run from the manhole to the main sewer. At a fall of 1:60 my run would come in at about 1.05m below the current invert.
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    Backdrop Manhole

    Right, soooo, one solution to my lack of depth for my foul run (covered on pervious threads) is to excavate the manhole I intend to connect to and install a backdrop IC there. The manhole in question serves a neighbours property before connecting to mains sewer. It is approximately 30cm deep at the minute and about 0.75m from the neighbours front door. The output from it runs perpendicular to the neighbours frontage for about 30cm before turning 90 degrees to the right and running a further 5m ish to the sewer invert which is 3m, so that's a fairly steep connection to the sewer. If I dig out this manhole and stick an IC in at say 1.35m deep (so digging out an additional 1.05m beyond the existing depth) this should give me a fall of about 1:60 (over the 52m length from my property). However, in order to reconnect the neighbours shallow foul runs it will have to be done using backdrop connections. Does this sound feasible? There were a few indirect comments regarding backdrops on a previous thread which leads me to believe they are a favourable method? I will try and sketch this in a bit.
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    Pumped Foul Connection

    Insulated raft is plan A providing that the ground allows it so my drainage needs to work with it - I'm sure it will work out, I have the beginnings of a solution in mind which I will discuss in another thread as it concerns backdrops!!
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    Pumped Foul Connection

    Ok. As I suspected but good to have other opinions. The ridge height is set in stone so I can't raise the house, space I have plenty of. The crux of the matter is that I need to put a foul connection in now (long story) but as I don't have a foundation in yet I am working backwards from the 'known' which is the manhole and having to 'guesstimate' the depth of my insulated raft (preferred method) in order to ensure I leave myself enough height when laying the pipes so that the rest bend sits in the sub base as per previous thread - but at the same time ensuring I meet minimum falls! I will start another thread in a bit with another question - a nuisance in terms of me starting loads of thread but I want to ensure that the info within stays on point so they can be easily read by future readers who may have similar queries. Thanks Jamie
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    Pumped Foul Connection

    Right. Next question! So, if the invert of the manhole I am trying to connect into is 'difficult' to achieve the necessary falls would pumping my foul waste into said manhole be a workable solution? The reason I ask is I am not sure what the velocity of my pumped, mushed up waste would be when it entered the shared manhole. If the flow rate is vastly different to that of the neighbours 'gravity' connection into said manhole would it lead to blockages should we flush at the same time for example? I may be overthinking this but it is better to do so now before its too late! Likewise, if the two options were either: 1. Gravity connection - difficult to achieve given the tight margins in regards to achieving minimum falls of 1:80 or 2. Pumped connection - easy to do (if connecting into a shared manhole works!) Which would people recommend? Having read the forums I have seen that some members are on a pumped system. Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest it does what is says on the tin and should work fine - if a little more grim than the standard method! I appreciate any & all input.
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    Rest Bend Location

    Ok, so I will assume that from the experiences of both @JSHarris and @PeterStarck that the 'standard' method is to have the rest bend within the compacted sub base so that the pipe running up through the insulation & slab is vertical. As mentioned, there will also be no issues then getting BC to check it before it all gets covered over. Thank you all for focusing my mind on how to approach this. I have more 'questions/thoughts' swirling in my head but I will move them to a separate thread.
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    Rest Bend Location

    I think I should change the question slightly. If you have an established manhole to connect to and its invert is such that you are struggling to get the necessary height required to meet the minimum falls then is it possible to move the rest bend up as far as possible to gain the height you need? It seems the only thing that says you can't so far is the Isoquick manual and @PeterStarcks real world experience with his foundation.
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    Rest Bend Location

    Now, this may seem like a stupid question but until someone tells me why its a stupid question, my ignorance will continue - I am hoping my fellow self builders can educate me a little! Right, is there a minimum depth that the rest bend must sit at below the slab? Or can it sit in the slab and/or insulation in an insulated raft foundation for example. The reason I ask, is if you need to claw as much height as possible to get the falls correct then having it as high as possible would be beneficial. I've had a scoot through the Approved Document and although there are minimum depths mentioned for the foul run under drives/footpaths etc. this can be mitigated by covering with concrete etc. where necessary, so can I stick the rest bend as high as possible in my foundation to claw some precious height back? Ignore the inaccuracies of foundation detailing - the drawing is just to 'show' what I'm getting at. Ta