Roger440

Looks like things will stay as they are then...................... Or get worse.

I an genuinely surprised you cant see what he is getting out of it. Are you really that blind to how it works? Take a look at net worth of ex PM's before and post being PM. Even Angela Rayners net worth has gone up by a couple of million in a year! Money, and lots of it. Far beyond anything possible by a good legal career. By the time he is done he will be worth tens of millions, if not more. Same as Rishi rocking up in politics whilst already incredibly wealthy beyond most peoples comprehension If you think Whitty is a good example, there is no hope. Buckled at the first sign of pressure and then did whatever he was told to do/say. Principled, right up to the point it mattered. Still, at least we agree on the corporate influence and a woeful civil service. However, as you yourself observe, little likelihood of resolution, if indeed its even possible at this stage of decline.

It has. For now. Another route is now the prefered option. But yet to make it through planning. Though, as minsters who claim to object to it, sit on the board, i would imagine it will glide through. Result for me if so, not so much for the poor buggers who do get a pylon plonked in their garden. But perfectly possible for it to make a return, depending how things go. Lets be honest, its already virtually unsellable until such time as the pylons route is aproved AND built, as theres always the risk of the proposal coming back. If i actually needed to sell it now, im screwed.

I was thinking about current politicians, not those of the past. Bit worrying that you include Starmer though. A big part of the problem. In it, only for what he can get out of it. Id probably go beyond that to say, the big problem now is that the very idea of government has been hijacked by corparate interests. Starmer being a great example. Probably running off topic now...............

Thats TEN times further away. My last place there was one about 350m away. That wasnt much of an issue.

Indeed. It would render the property unsellable. Its one thing to have a pylon 1/4 of a mile away, but a 100ft is a whole different ball game. To me, the only acceptable compensation would be the ful value, prior to the plans + inflation. Even then, id be significantly disadvantaged as it a bit of a unicorn proprty, but i guess you cant cover everything. But if you are in the southeast on the HS2 route, then you do get the full value,

Do please enlighten us who the serious politicians are? Yes, there are some, but the system doesnt reward those. The ones that rise to the top are, manifestly, not the ones we need at the top.

Hmmm, but close to home that. The scam outfit currently seeking planning for a pylon route near me did, on the first round, plan to put a pylon in my garden, 100ft from the back of my house. Plan 2 put it 50ft in front of my house. Fortunately its now gone elsewhere. Theres a few on here suggesting that is all ok in the greater interests of the country. Try being one of those affected. And get a one of £1500 for the pleasure. A close escape so far, but it aint over yet.

Clearly you can fathom it, for you answered the question in the same paragraph!

As someone who had this exact issue, i looked at all the obvious options. The reality is, doing a decent job from the roof space is going to be near impossble. I concluded that the risks of air under the pir, and subsequent moisture issues that could develop, it was a non starter. So, my prefered method was as iceverge suggested, insulation over the plaster board inside and then reboard over and skim. In the end the situation resolved itself as i ended up re-roofing, so did it from the outside. Which is, probably the only way to do it right.

Wise words from ProDave.

Well, it was marginally more complicated. But yes. My point was EPC bears little relation or indication of of actual energy use.

Indeed. I could get pretty much everything i wanted. For £300k more. But i dont have the £300k. And as you say, location is everything. If i did, id have built a house instead anyway. Always wanted to, still do. Just not going to happen. Because i dont have the money. All i can do with regard energy use, is improve it as much as i can in a cost effective manner. Even if i did nothing, the money i spend on energy wouldnt come close to covering the difference between what i have and what id like.

Lots, definitely. Id say most, because even, in the unlikely event they take into account the upgrades done, many will be invisible. And then, theres all the actual poor work, especially on insulation, that renders the assumptions, even if done well, meaningless from a running cost perspective. The house im in now, has insulated plaster board on battens in most of the newer (1980) part. But thanks to gross stupidity it stops at the soil stack. The stack is exposed under the kitchen workstop. It also goes upstairs into the roof and the boxing up there is open. So when breezy, the air simply comes down and across the floor. Marginally better than a tent. As you can imagine, it was essentially impossible to heat. "as existing" bears no relationship to the EPC, other than, its poor. Which is no surprise to anyone just standing at the roadside, if you have a couple of braincells. The one at my last house was just fradulent. So, yes, id say most EPC's are meaningless from an energy use perspective, maybe be slightly more useful from a construction perspective. Buer beware and all that.

No need to worry about hostile actors blowing up power stations. We do that ourselves. On purpose. Much as most of what you say makes sesnse, but your statement that long term bills will be lower i would suggest is fantasy. Assuming long term means, say, 10-20 years. Ive no real interest in a 100 years for example. Prices are only going up. To come down, would require actions that bring down the cost. I see no such action.