Roger440

Whilst we have a washing machine, during the day in summer, theres minimal demand and nothing to move to that time. Even my workshop is very light on demand in the summer months. Im going to be putting it into the grid rather than using most of it, then buying it when i need it. Yes, i will be saving at least some cost, so theres logic in your argument, but essentially id be wasting a lot of it. Which seems a shame I think Johnmo has demonstrated even in winter, with panels optimised to suit, (which i would do) useful amounts of energy can be collected. Ultimately my demand is high in winter, especially when its dark, near non existent in summer. Excarbated by high workshop power use in winter also. And i really want simple. I know, you probably think thats weird, but if i cant install and maintain it myself, then im not going to do it.

I dont think he mans the screw piles are made of timber. They would be galvanised steel.

How? That needs batteries, or a big water tank. Water tank was my original idea. Batteries are a non starter based on capital cost and payback. This was the video Johnmo posted up there^^^ https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkVaxAfXQPDU&ved=2ahUKEwjZ2vnXhcqEAxXkZEEAHfX8DHkQo7QBegQIDhAG&usg=AOvVaw2ys-gKyKBdBX1Ku7fZDZ-M The basic premise was to supplement the oil based heating with the "free" energy from solar. Using stuff i already have. Theres no economic case to move away from oil to electric as i cant, obviously, generate that much power.

It doesnt reduce my heating costs. Just gives me lots of electricity. That i cant really use. At least not when its generated Unless i do more stuff. Which costs more money. You dont just fill in your name and address on the G98 form. It asks for lots of other stuff, like who did it, their qualifications etc. If i do it myself, theres going to be a problem, surely? Happy to connect it up. I qualified way back under 16th edition. So i know enough to do that without killing myself. I like the system that Johnmo linked to, ie panels straight to immersion. No controllers, no electronics, no connection to the grid, no DNO bs, no trying to find an electrician, no complicated opaque tarriffs. Thats simple. Everything else just isnt. Accepting that what you say is simplish, but doesnt get me heat.

If you go back couple of pages you will see thats its not nearly so simple. If it was, id have done it by now.

This useful thread is a handy reminder of how little ive achieved on this front. (lots achieved elsewhere) The panels are still on a pallet. And i still dont understand enough to design something simple.

I gues my understanding of "design" might be slightly different from others. So, do you need to specify you will will use a 6kw heat pump, or do you need to say it will be a valiant heat pump with a pipe run secured to a specific wall etc. The latter would seem a tall order and a bit restrictive. Clearly locating service ducts etc through a foundation are a no brainer. Thats not how i interprated the OP's post.

Is this actually a requirement now? I cant believe everyone designs all that before you even start work on the house.

Thing is, im not sure i actually want "change". Just people that can govern, honestly, in the best interests of the people and country. Where they sit on the political spectrum, actually comes a poor second. Id hapily vote for someone/people who i disagree with politically, if i thought they were honest and had integrity. Indeed, doing so might not even be good for me personally. I suspect you are right that the the majority will vote for alternatives, probably ever more extreme. But thats simply a response to the abject failure of those who do win to actually do anything. Anything other than enrich themselves that is. Strangely, they, mostly, seem quite good at that. Some of them exceptional. Shame they couldnt put those talents to good use for the benefit of all of us. Im not angry. Just resigned to the inevitable. I recognise and appreciate ive lived through the good times, probably the best times. But i think im ok to be "unhappy" with where its going. Though i guess i do get a bit worked up when they take my money, that ive worked so hard for, to try and provide for my impending retirement by continously moving the goal posts, at a stage of life where there is little i can do to recover it. Id imagine most people would get a bit annoyed by that.

Well i cant be a politician can i? Because i have some principles, and morals, im not going to get far am ? Ive always voted. Sadly, it seems we get the same result each time. Just a different colour. The only good news is that our two favourite colours of the past, might not be the same two going forward. Though, i suspect i will be business as usual as the new suspects get settled in to things and do exactly the same as the previous suspects with regard to enriching themselves. And lying. But, more worryingly, from more extreme positions. Which in wales will be the far left, while england goes the other way. But, no, you are niether realist or pessimist. At least based on your postings here. Which may or may not reflect reality.

I did say that was a bit extreme, and it isnt a serious suggestion. It was more to demonstrate the ridiculous position we have got to.

Oddly enough, the welsh government proposed a bill to do that. You wont be surprised to know they have now changed their mind and wont be proceeding with it. And one wonders why we are cynical.

Not sure id call it defeatist. More, realist. No doubt, from many decades of experience. You on the other hand appear to be a hopeless optimist. Writing it down makes no difference at all. Maybe to you, but not to any outcome. 5 years in office is plenty enough time to enrich yourself, who cares if you lose next time round. After being "tested" as you put it. We have become so used to the lies that come, almost on a daily basis, that we all just ignore it and get on with our lives as best we can. Ive got this great idea. Dont action your manifesto promises, lifetime prison sentance. That would stop it dead. Ill vote for that. Ok, maybe a tad extreme, but writing it down does exactly nothing. I had, lets call it an exchange, with a member of Plaid (being as im in wales) the far left party looking in pole position to take over here. Constant posts on facebook about various things, refer to our manifesto for details. Sure, so i did. So, given its at odds with some of their current utterings, i question it. After a lot of roundabout weasel words, seems i cant and shouldnt take the manifesto as a manifesto, and that they will change it anytime they want (and do). Whatever else you might say about them, their new leader has clearly seen what worked for Starmer and is basically saying whatever he thinks plays well to the gallery at that moment in time. Manifestos? Worthless. Summary: Dont rely on our manifesto as we will just change it whenever we feel like it. Dont think this "its written down" idea of yours will fly. Ive still got "no tax rises for working people" ringing in my ears. Another complete lie. It will be interesting to see if your hopless optimisim is still in play in 20 years time?

Looks like things will stay as they are then...................... Or get worse.

I an genuinely surprised you cant see what he is getting out of it. Are you really that blind to how it works? Take a look at net worth of ex PM's before and post being PM. Even Angela Rayners net worth has gone up by a couple of million in a year! Money, and lots of it. Far beyond anything possible by a good legal career. By the time he is done he will be worth tens of millions, if not more. Same as Rishi rocking up in politics whilst already incredibly wealthy beyond most peoples comprehension If you think Whitty is a good example, there is no hope. Buckled at the first sign of pressure and then did whatever he was told to do/say. Principled, right up to the point it mattered. Still, at least we agree on the corporate influence and a woeful civil service. However, as you yourself observe, little likelihood of resolution, if indeed its even possible at this stage of decline.