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The Build - Insulation ahead of 1st Fix


Redoctober

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A quick pictorial update. The ground floor screed has set allowing those involved to install the additional 50mm rigid insulation to the inside of the external walls of the TF which had 120mm factory fitted insulation pre fitted. They then set about putting up the Vapour/Air Tightness Barrier — Protect VC reflective foil. The next stage will be the 50mm service batons and this will allow the electrician to start the first fix.

Whilst this has been going on, the UFH pipes for upstairs are being installed and outside, the roofers are finishing of the rear facing section of the roof. 

 

As a footnote to a previous entry which detailed my mistake regarding the incorrect positioning of the windows, these will be corrected next week at a cost of £300. Sometimes it is the fer of the unknown that can de-stabilse you - Yes it's £300 but in the scheme of things..............

Thanks - PW.

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Did the builders have the foresight to take a "Tony Tray" around the joist ends to ensure continuous air tightness at the ground floor / first floor junction?

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23 minutes ago, ProDave said:

Did the builders have the foresight to take a "Tony Tray" around the joist ends to ensure continuous air tightness at the ground floor / first floor junction?

 

Hi @ProDave I don't think so, in fact I would almost say they didn't as I didn't see any  such "device", although in fairness I wouldn't know what a "Tony Tray" is, even if it dropped on my foot!! ?

So by way of a lesson for those like me, what is a Tony Tray and what is the purpose of it?

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Really coming on now and looking great. £300 is nothing in the great scheme of things and certainly doesn’t compare to the stress it caused you I’m sure. 

 

PS I don’t know what a Tony Tray is either ?

 

 

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Not sure you can access ebuild forum anymore, so, a Tony tray is an airtight membrane that extends from the internal airtight layer below the joist, round the outside of the joist ends and back in to join up with the membrane above the floor. Tony used it in a brick and block build but the principle is the same with timber frame. It stops the joist penetrating the airtight membrane which is difficult and numerous to seal up.

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1 hour ago, newhome said:

Really coming on now and looking great. £300 is nothing in the great scheme of things and certainly doesn’t compare to the stress it caused you I’m sure. 

 

 

Exactly that @newhome

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3 minutes ago, Redoctober said:

 

Exactly that @newhome

 

We’ve all been there I’m sure. Crisis averted, lesson learned, ask ask ask! No shame, just support here, in spades, from people who have walked your walk and sometimes been terrified. 

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1 hour ago, joe90 said:

Not sure you can access ebuild forum anymore, so, a Tony tray is an airtight membrane that extends from the internal airtight layer below the joist, round the outside of the joist ends and back in to join up with the membrane above the floor. Tony used it in a brick and block build but the principle is the same with timber frame. It stops the joist penetrating the airtight membrane which is difficult and numerous to seal up.

Exactly that. My builders suggested it, and they had never heard it called a "Tony Tray"  As with most things attention to detail is important especially at corners.

 

One house I wired 2 years ago now did not do that, and I remember them spending ages taping bits of air tight membrane around every single joist.

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House looking great and moving on at a pace. I take it the reason for the battening on the upstairs floor is for the UFH? If so are you using any form of spreader plate? TIA

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5 hours ago, Pete said:

House looking great and moving on at a pace. I take it the reason for the battening on the upstairs floor is for the UFH? If so are you using any form of spreader plate? TIA

 

Hi @Pete Yes the battening is in preparation of the UFH pipes, which were laid today. No spreader plates will be used, just a "biscuit mix" screed covering the entire floor. This "biscuit mix" is an 8:1 sand and dry cement mix - which will then be covered by 22mm eggerboard flooring.

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6 hours ago, CC45 said:

Hi @Redoctober, any pics of that ufh going in upstairs?  The mix will be to the top of the 25mm battens?

Looks good.

 Hi @CC45 - Yes, I will upload the photos over the weekend as the screed mix goes down on Monday.  The screed mix will go to the top of the battens and then the egger boards sit across that and the battens.

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