gravelld Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I have some old windows that need a new coat of paint. I found an old tin of paint from the former owners of the house in the garage - I applied this and it's the right colour. But I need more. The sticker on the tin says: French Grey 2906-G56Y NTB18 PPG NTB It's on a Sadolin tin. So should I just find Sadolin "French Grey" or do those code numbers give away the colour code, or something? I googled the codes but nothing came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The 2906-G56Y is the NCS code for it so should be easily matched as that's a common colour code. Is it a gloss paint ..? Or something more "woodstain" as the issue will come when you look at the solids component of a stain. Gloss is pretty much gloss, although a newer tin may give a slightly "glossier" finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PeterW said: The 2906-G56Y is the NCS code for it so should be easily matched as that's a common colour code. Is it a gloss paint ..? Or something more "woodstain" as the issue will come when you look at the solids component of a stain. Gloss is pretty much gloss, although a newer tin may give a slightly "glossier" finish. Thats not a current NCS code that I recognize. Give me 10 minutes and I'll get one of my guys to run it through the database. Edited August 9, 2016 by Barney12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, Barney12 said: That's not a standard code that I recognize. Thats not a current NCS code that I recognize. Give me 10 minutes and I'll get one of my guys to run it through the database. Yep it looks pre 1995 .... Which makes that paint very old ..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennentslager Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I took a flake of paint to the valspar mixy place at B&Q and it was perfect Quick and easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Nope. Not in our database so our supplier has never formulated it or mixed it. So as @Tennentslager said pop it to your local paint shop that has a spectrometer and they'll match it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravelld Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ok, thanks. It can't be pre-1995, the windows were only painted three or four years ago. The windows would be in even worse condition if it was pre 1995 ;-) This is the paint: http://www.sadolin.co.uk/products/sadolin-superdec-satin-opaque-wood-protection/ What surprises me is that "French Grey" isn't listed under colours. However it is here: https://www.brewers.co.uk/product/HA572610F/French Grey So I was interested: is the paint formulation some proprietary blend of chemicals, and any pigment can be added over the top - is that why retailers are selling it in different shades to that which the manufacturer lists? Truth be told I wondered if I could order online for convenience and possible savings, which is why I was wondering if those numbers were a colour code. But I was also worried about what "French Grey" might mean to different retailers. I guess I'll just go local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 So apart from a few F&B colours, most manufacturers use the NCS codes so that you can potentially use different brands and get the same "colour" as you can't trademark the actual colour itself The problem comes when you try and use different suppliers as their chemical concoction will be slightly different so they are subtly different - check e-paint out if you want to see what I mean and search a colour. It will show you all the options for that colour and how they differ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravelld Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Late to the party. My supplier just phones up their tech. dept for the mix for competitor's colours. One thing not mentioned is that you want to know whether your existing paint is solvent or aqueous based. If dated from 1995 it will be the former imo, and you need to make sure that the aqueous paint you may get now will be compatible. Appropriate preparation and primer will probably be the remedy, or sanding right back, or specifying solvent-based. Ferdinand Edited August 22, 2016 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravelld Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Thanks. I went back to the original shop and asked. They said they mix their own pigment into the paint and be wary of buying elsewhere (of course ;-) ) because the shade can deviate by about 4% (I think he said) from RAL colour. It's a modern microporous paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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