Pocster Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: I'd agree to splitting the kitchen. And I'd hope that "narrow" meant at least 300mm (ideally 600mm) - ie at least the width of wall units, so that it could function as something useful in the context - either as a slimline BB or a shelf to put things on. You could perhaps use wall cupboards or shelves to give extra space. Where it joins the side of the kitchen, you could just take out a 600 unit and leave a small gap as say a hoover or bin space. Yep - that type of thing. It will make them walk diaginelly less, and act as "punctuation" in movement around the kitchen so there is a slowing-down at the hazard point. If it were so narrow as to only be like a fence or a set of banisters they might protest :-). F It's tricky to rejig existing units as they have 2 each all numbered. But I *think* at that junction between ovens and the next unit there is a 30cm boxed in section. Naturally take from this and extend along. Too narrow for a BB but as you say will 'make' them perhaps take something out the oven and place on 'bar' rather than walk across 'step'. Emailed builder already. Will put up a photo of unit in situ when done. I did 'wonder' about the step - but as I've been in the house a lot I cross over it 'naturally' without thinking. SHMBO had the issue which caused me to post. Naturally now she tells me "Of course I'm right; you knew I would be" ? Edited January 13, 2019 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) I'm intrigued as to what sort of tenant lives in a luxury HMO. Is it students, professional, just reasonably well off people who can't get a foot on the housing ladder etc? "Luxury" to me means privacy and not having to share any facilities. Edited January 13, 2019 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) You can see it easier from this end. Not at the property so just going off stock photo's To right of 2nd oven is the boxed in section. I think you can just make out the edge of the next floor unit. So looks less than 30cm - but can still be a divider/narrow worktop. Edited January 13, 2019 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Onoff said: I'm intrigued as to what sort of tenant lives in a luxury HMO. Is it students, professional, just reasonably well off people who can't get a foot on the housing ladder etc? "Luxury" to me means privacy and not having to share any facilities. One reason to go for an HMO is that the furniture and services are supplied, so it becomes a pied-a-terre not a main home. That is a different market than say someone who cannot afford a house and the HMO becomes the main dwelling. An example might be a mature student at Canterbury University or a South-East rep, both of whom have family and home in the West or the Midlands or the North and commute weekly. They are not struggling for somewhere to live, but want somewhere where they can just land temporarily as a compromise between a hotel or B&B and a rented house where they have to worry about lecky suppliers and finding furniture. Some of the same type of tenant may have their wares and stock kept in a small unit at a Big Yellow Self-Storage. One step further on the spectrum towards hotels or B&B is that as the campaign to make it harder and harder for LLs has continued, more are now using properties as Holiday or AIRBNB lets, as these still get generous tax concessions. The other sweet spots currently spare bedroom tax allowances and being having lodgers to just below the HMO threshold. (That is one reason why I would carefully at potential developments before jumping on the Holiday Let bandwagon as a self-builder. Holiday lettings LLs may be next on the hate-list). F Edited January 13, 2019 by Ferdinand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: One reason to go for an HMO is that the furniture and services are supplied, so it becomes a pied-a-terre not a main home. That is a different market than say someone who cannot afford a house and the HMO becomes the main dwelling. An example might be a mature student at Canterbury University or a South-East rep, both of whom have family and home in the West or the Midlands or the North and commute weekly. They are not struggling for somewhere to live, but want somewhere where they can just land temporarily as a compromise between a hotel or B&B and a rented house where they have to worry about lecky suppliers and finding furniture. Some of the same type of tenant may have their wares and stock kept in a small unit at a Big Yellow Self-Storage. F I get lots of contractors for big employers e.g. Rolls Royce Airbus. So they usually own a home at the other end of the country. Need a nice relaxed place ; cheaper than a B&B but want all the modern mod cons. Certain 'young professionals' also like to share with similar. Cheaper than a 1 bed flat. They like it because all bills are included including cleaner, wifi, sky sports etc. etc. etc. So it's just 1 monthly bill that covers everything. Similar types of people get on real well together. It means they socialise more with people in the house; feel more comfortable and therefore stay longer. A few years ago I noticed 'luxury HMO's' coming up in London ; so knew this would filter through to Bristol. I am of course hoping better tenants in a better property look after it better. Edited January 13, 2019 by pocster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 My neighbours have a similar set up in their own home as since the kids all left home they rent out their spare rooms to contractors at the local power station where they work. Their house is similar in size to mine so pretty large and the contractors have their own en-suite bedroom large enough for a sofa and tv too, and one of the reception rooms is for their own use too but they share the rest of the house with my neighbours. Seems to work pretty well and the contractors tend to stay Mon - Thurs nights and then go home to their families. They have anything between 2 and 4 staying at any one time. They tried to persuade me to do it too but I don’t fancy it TBH so I just rattle around here on my own ?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, newhome said: My neighbours have a similar set up in their own home as since the kids all left home they rent out their spare rooms to contractors at the local power station where they work. Their house is similar in size to mine so pretty large and the contractors have their own en-suite bedroom large enough for a sofa and tv too, and one of the reception rooms is for their own use too but they share the rest of the house with my neighbours. Seems to work pretty well and the contractors tend to stay Mon - Thurs nights and then go home to their families. They have anything between 2 and 4 staying at any one time. They tried to persuade me to do it too but I don’t fancy it TBH so I just rattle around here on my own ?. Just the odd Welsh plumber eh? Emphasis on the "odd"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Onoff said: Just the odd Welsh plumber eh? Emphasis on the "odd"! He came with his man friend ?. I have no idea what they did over that side of the house ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, newhome said: He came with his man friend ?. I have no idea what they did over that side of the house ? We know what THEY did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, pocster said: We know what THEY did ! They fixed my heating! And drank beer ? / ate bacon ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, newhome said: They fixed my heating! And drank beer ? / ate bacon ? ? That’s exactly what I was implying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Builders looked. Not an issue. Only problem is as it's quite long and skinny could 'wobble'. So as a 'lets try it and see' solution could potentially add a chrome bar floor to ceiling at far end for definite strength. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 Builders done a good job on the ‘bar’ - step is no longer a hazard . Have put up a ‘mind the step’ warning sign anyway . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just now, pocster said: Builders done a good job on the ‘bar’ - step is no longer a hazard . Have put up a ‘mind the step’ warning sign anyway . Make sure they point the sharp knives downward in the dishwasher! Trip/ouch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Onoff said: Make sure they point the sharp knives downward in the dishwasher! Trip/ouch. Don’t go creating scenarios! . I’ve dealt with knife attacks , drugs , alleged rape , drink , police - that was just all from 1 tenant and lasted 3 months . If they trip and land on a knife in the dishwasher then I’ll eat my shorts ! Edited January 31, 2019 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, pocster said: Don’t go creating scenarios! . I’ve dealt with knife attacks , drugs , alleged rape , drink , police - that was just all from 1 tenant and lasted 3 months . If they trip and land on a knife in the dishwasher then I’ll eat my shorts ! It did actually happen to an unfortunate lady a few years back. Good you got acquitted on everything! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 37 minutes ago, pocster said: Builders done a good job on the ‘bar’ - step is no longer a hazard . Have put up a ‘mind the step’ warning sign anyway . Looks great man ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 56 minutes ago, pocster said: Builders done a good job on the ‘bar’ - step is no longer a hazard . Have put up a ‘mind the step’ warning sign anyway . Looks good. And because there is a change of direction at the door, people will look before changing direction. 54 minutes ago, pocster said: eat my shorts ! THought you had done this, based on the avatar, and that they had been knitted from ganja, which would explain a lot. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: Looks good. And because there is a change of direction at the door, people will look before changing direction. THought you had done this, based on the avatar, and that they had been knitted from ganja, which would explain a lot. Good job. Yep. It's very very hard to actually 'trip' now. Much happier with this arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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