Earthing metal pendant

[j_s]

Hi guys

I've bought a basic single metal e27 pendant. It's got neutral, line and earth but the metal rose requires earthing and no fitting (usually ring attached with earth lead to casing all done) is provided. It's just an earth wire and instructions just say make sure rose is earthed. I'll need some connectors to attach to house wiring but what is the best way to go about sorting out the rose? I've googled but you just can't seem to buy a small earth lead with ring as normally seen in other light fittings. 

 

I'll probably get the electrician to do it but I like to get all parts ready before he gets here. 

 

Thanks

James

 

Edited August 25, 2018 by j_s

[Onoff]

Got a picture(s)? Any earth stud, tapped hole or spot welded 1/4" blade in the rose?

[j_s]

Will get a pic later and link below for the pendant instructions

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01GLBNSRS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TFBGBbGAJPHYX

[PeterW]

I’d just crimp a ring onto the earth from the pendant and the earth line in and then trap it under the stud - it looks like they are removable anyway 

[j_s]

Picture of pendant parts below:

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/G4ph4tfSXKhBP8qf8

[ProDave]

27 minutes ago, j_s said:

Picture of pendant parts below:

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/G4ph4tfSXKhBP8qf8

Can you unwrap the bit that screws to the ceiling with the flex coming from it and take a better picture of that bit.

[j_s]

The bit with the flex on it is the light bulb holder, do you mean that part?

 

There is a bracket that screws to the ceiling, 2 screws then point downwards from the bracket and go through the 2 holes in the rose and there are 2 nuts that then hold the rose in place. There is a nut that fits in the top of the rose that the flex goes through and a piece under the rose that the flex also goes through that fits through the hole that the nut attaches to.

 

Crimped ring terminal to one of the 2 screws pointing down or below the central nut perhaps?

 

[ProDave]

The bit that fixes to the ceiling. All I see at the moment is the cover, but not what the cover goes over.

[j_s]

Picture of ceiling bracket

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uc5uMSNGkFbEQsbx5

[ProDave]

God I hate light fittings like that.  INCOMPLETE.  They expect you to make it up as you go along. 

 

WHAT secures and takes the strain of the flex?

 

WHAT connects the flex to the fixed wiring?

 

I would take it back as not fit for purpose unless you are prepared to sort out the missing bits.

 

Earthing, which is the original question, you could to a lot worse than a ring terminal under one of the screws that fixed the bracket thing to the ceiling.

[Onoff]

Usual cheap Chinese sh!t! You need to earth both ceiling bracket and that black cover imo. Something like this...green highlighter looks blue for some reason...

 

 

 

 

If you don't earth both, either could become live when separated. Does the grub screw in that conical black bit just "crush" the 3 core cable to secure it?

[j_s]

Yes onoff, it crushes the 3 core to hold it.

 

I'll look at getting something else I think

 

Anyone know of a better supplier of single pendants like this please?