swisscheese Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm prepping a large floor area for tiling. I expect to be using a Mapei Adhesive so for priming prep of the floor do I use the Mapei Primer G or go for a more generic SBR product, it looks like I may get a better dilution/coverage rate for the SBR so may be a bit cheaper. Any pre -tiling prep advice Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Primer G in water on concrete is fine - that’s what we/@Nickfromwales used on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, swisscheese said: I'm prepping a large floor area for tiling. I expect to be using a Mapei Adhesive so for priming prep of the floor do I use the Mapei Primer G or go for a more generic SBR product, it looks like I may get a better dilution/coverage rate for the SBR so may be a bit cheaper. Any pre -tiling prep advice Cheers SBR all day long Mapei is ok but can be a bit pricey Tilemaster adhesive is as good as bal I normally pay £9.50 for white flexi Really nice to use also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I wouldn't use SBR TBH. A good flexible tile primer will stay tacky after it dries. Ultra is my usual one if I can't get hold of my local N&C ( Nicobond ) stuff. Brickies and spreads tend to use PVA or SBR for everything, but I'd recommend sticking to products of the same family eg adhesive / primer alike. Just my 2-cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I was told on here not to use watered down pva on my concrete floor that wasn't to be tiled for a long while. It was just to dustproof it. The against being that once tiled, if water gets through the grout it can soften the pva film under the tile adhesive and the tile can lift. I used watered down sbr instead. Noted it's getting a tad dusty again so it's probably all worn off by now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 On 19/06/2018 at 13:55, Onoff said: I was told on here not to use watered down pva on my concrete floor that wasn't to be tiled for a long while. It was just to dustproof it. The against being that once tiled, if water gets through the grout it can soften the pva film under the tile adhesive and the tile can lift. I used watered down sbr instead. Noted it's getting a tad dusty again so it's probably all worn off by now! PVA is outdated. I put hundreds of mtrs down with SBR without problem. We even use it prior to Ditra matting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 On 19/06/2018 at 13:59, nod said: PVA is outdated. I put hundreds of mtrs down with SBR without problem. We even use it prior to Ditra matting Just paid a £1000 for 150 mtrs of Ditra Best of it is ten years ago we never used anti crack matting I can only rember one job that lifted in the last 30 years Now every other job I price has been spect for Ditra or Dura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisscheese Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, nod said: Just paid a £1000 for 150 mtrs of Ditra Best of it is ten years ago we never used anti crack matting I can only rember one job that lifted in the last 30 years Now every other job I price has been spect for Ditra or Dura Why is this ^ ? Adds substantially to the job price - I was considering not using the decoupling matt - seems to be mixed opinions as to whether it's essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 On 19/06/2018 at 15:02, swisscheese said: Why is this ^ ? Adds substantially to the job price - I was considering not using the decoupling matt - seems to be mixed opinions as to whether it's essential. If the floor is sound You don’t need it Most of the larger jobs have specced it when a drawing is sent out UFH you are taking a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisscheese Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 On 19/06/2018 at 16:22, nod said: If the floor is sound You don’t need it Most of the larger jobs have specced it when a drawing is sent out UFH you are taking a chance Thanks Nod, I hoped to have minimised UFH as an 'issue' by running the "concrete cure" UFH function on to help dry out the floor before even thinking about getting a tile down. That and the decent weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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