Triassic Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) Air pollution plans to tackle wood burners Ministers want to halve the number of people exposed to high levels of pollution from fine particles, known as particulates, by 2025. One of the most contentious proposals is to reduce pollution from wood burners, which, along with solid fuels, cause 38% of particulate pollution. But a source at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) told the BBC there was no plan to ban existing stoves - or the burning of coal and open wood fires, which are far more polluting than wood burners. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44203396 Edited May 22, 2018 by Triassic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K78 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 This country is becoming such a sick, lame joke. I almost wish we had a UK version of Trump it’s getting so bad. What is more natural than a human burning wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alphonsox Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, K78 said: What is more natural than a human burning wood? Dunno - Maybe a human dying early due to air pollution ? An estimated 40,000 a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, K78 said: This country is becoming such a sick, lame joke. I almost wish we had a UK version of Trump it’s getting so bad. What is more natural than a human burning wood? Burning wood is in large part responsible for the state of sub saharan Africa. No trees lead to soil erosion combined with poor rainfall leads to famine. Plus those of us with compromised lungs are tortured by our neighbours burning wood which impacts on breathing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Heard a minister being interviewed on this on Radio 4. They plan to give councils the power to ban the burning certain types of fuel only. Wet wood was mentioned as was a high sulphur coal but not all coal. How they plan to police this god knows. They could ban the sale of unseasoned or wet wood but apparently it will still be legal to sell it. This means trading standards cant just check garage forecourts, wood yards or delivery lorries. It would need a neighbour to complain and then the council EHO would have to come check what you are burning. My dealings with the EHO on other matters suggest they don't have the time or money to take on more work. Do they even have the powers to search your property? Putting this on the council is a standard ploy. It allows the government to claim to be doing something yet at the same time blame the councils if it doesn't work out or lots of people complain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 I wonde4 what ever happened to Mikeee and his neighbours who burnt painted wood and old pallets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Triassic said: I wonde4 what ever happened to Mikeee and his neighbours who burnt painted wood and old pallets? 50 page thread here on that saga.. http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9305&page=1 Latest is the neighbour was ordered (?) to raise the height of their chimney but they/the court want Mikee to sign a Tomlin Order which as I understand it amounts to an acceptance of the solution. This is discussed at the end of the thread currently page 54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Temp said: Putting this on the council is a standard ploy. It allows the government to claim to be doing something yet at the same time blame the councils if it doesn't work out or lots of people complain. So true. Regardless of where one stands in this debate it is clear the presentation of this new Government initiative is chaotic. Any policy arising will be incoherent and so ineffective. Local government is at the bottom of the food chain and cannot answer back, they are to blame for the poor state of adult social care apparently, in another example my local NHS hospital is so cash strapped some months it has to borrow money to pay the wage bill and the central government answer is to send in the CQC to fine the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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