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Where are all the SIPs suppliers???

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Hey everyone,

 

From my thread nearly a year ago, I have yet to implement my garage build. What I have decided is to convert the approved outbuilding to a garden office instead (I got big plot, so parking wont be an issue with LA). Already spoke with Case officer and he suggested a variation of a condition to replace the garage, I will keep the same external dimensions but will change the roof to perhaps a flat roof design and add a couple of windows.

 

What I have not being able to get is a quotation for the panels. I have written about 7 companies I found on a google search, only one has actually replied, is there anyone in the forum representing a SIPs company willing to sell me stuff? :D

 

 

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I got in touch with http://superiorsippanels.co.uk/  They got back to me pretty quickly .

Their SIP's are cementitious (I think that's the right word) so apparently you can render straight on top of them?

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19 hours ago, Plumbersmateuk said:

I got in touch with http://superiorsippanels.co.uk/  They got back to me pretty quickly .

Their SIP's are cementitious (I think that's the right word) so apparently you can render straight on top of them?

 

Interesting, will check it out, how costly is it compared to "standard" SIPS?

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20 hours ago, Plumbersmateuk said:

apparently you can render straight on top of them?

 

I agree that its would be 'possible' however it would be a really bad idea to render directly onto the outside surface of any SIPS system or timber frame wall construction, even ones faced with a cement based board.

 

It's a much better idea in the wet climate that we have here in the UK to use a rainscreen in front of the SIPS. The rainscreen should create a ventilated cavity between the SIPS and the rainscreen layer.

 

In British Columbia, Canada between 1985 and 2000 approx 50% of all buildings that were rendered directly onto timber framed external walls have subsequently failed. The repair costs exceed $4 billion. They subsequently altered their building codes to make rainscreen construction mandatory for timber bulidings.

 

Google link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_condo_crisis

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12 minutes ago, Ian said:

 

I agree that its would be 'possible' however it would be a really bad idea to render directly onto the outside surface of any SIPS system or timber frame wall construction, even ones faced with a cement based board.

 

It's a much better idea in the wet climate that we have here in the UK to use a rainscreen in front of the SIPS. The rainscreen should create a ventilated cavity between the SIPS and the rainscreen layer.

 

In British Columbia, Canada between 1985 and 2000 approx 50% of all buildings that were rendered directly onto timber framed external walls have subsequently failed. The repair costs exceed $4 billion. They subsequently altered their building codes to make rainscreen construction mandatory for timber bulidings.

 

Google link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_condo_crisis

 

Good info, thanks!

 

@Plumbersmateuk sent an email right after my last post and Rod already got in touch, impressive timing :) 

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Daft as it sounds .... use the cement boarded ones inside out. 

 

It’s like Fermacell and does a pretty decent finish - skim it if you want and use surface mounted electrics etc. 

 

And on the outside you can then batten and rain screen as per @Ian

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36 minutes ago, PeterW said:

Daft as it sounds .... use the cement boarded ones inside out. 

 

It’s like Fermacell and does a pretty decent finish - skim it if you want and use surface mounted electrics etc. 

 

And on the outside you can then batten and rain screen as per @Ian

 

I assume both faces are similar so no need to use them inside out?

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10 minutes ago, hmpmarketing said:

 

I assume both faces are similar so no need to use them inside out?

 

Not sure as I’ve seen both - one has a MgO board outer, and one has both inner and outer. 

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11 minutes ago, PeterW said:

 

Not sure as I’ve seen both - one has a MgO board outer, and one has both inner and outer. 

 

I will ask them about this, thanks for the tip

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20 hours ago, hmpmarketing said:

 

Good info, thanks!

I found him very helpful. When the time comes I am going to pay him a visit as he has given me a provisional quote on a 2 1/2 storey house.

Having said that I have a couple of others that I intend to get quotes from and visit.

21 hours ago, Ian said:

I agree that its would be 'possible' however it would be a really bad idea to render directly onto the outside surface of any SIPS system or timber frame wall construction, even ones faced with a cement based board.

Yes I was concerned about this, I have tried to find as much information on SIP's failing as I can.  I do have a list of questions to put to the companies when/if I visit them.

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6 hours ago, Plumbersmateuk said:

I found him very helpful. When the time comes I am going to pay him a visit as he has given me a provisional quote on a 2 1/2 storey house.

Having said that I have a couple of others that I intend to get quotes from and visit.

Yes I was concerned about this, I have tried to find as much information on SIP's failing as I can.  I do have a list of questions to put to the companies when/if I visit them.

 

@oranjeboom has given me a contact for a SIPs supplier, he has already sorted most of these issues I had asked him about, so @Plumbersmateuk let me know if you need the contact

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1 minute ago, hmpmarketing said:

 let me know if you need the contact

Oh yes please. It is my intended build route

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Hi guys,

If this post is still live let me know as I can advise accordingly.

JF

Retired Chairman

Superior SIPs

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On 10/07/2018 at 20:05, John F2352 said:

Hi guys,

If this post is still live let me know as I can advise accordingly.

JF

Retired Chairman

Superior SIPs

PM sent

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