Floor levelling & LVT again

[saveasteading]

That will be so annoying but I agree with the above advice.

Also consider that there will be furniture and other distractions. Anyone else walking in there now won't notice and perhaps wouldn't anyway, and when it's furnished, even less so.

 

But overall, you either micromanage totally or you don't. You've done all you can and it would have been more extreme without.

Mostly, remember it's just you and me who are bothered by this. Otherwise the manufacturers would be using bigger patterns and fewer features.

 

Do something elsewhere today.

[Nickfromwales]

3 hours ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

@Spinny really sorry to hear about this. I realise you’ve put a huge amount of prep, thinking and planning in advance, but could you live with it?

I realised that you may not be able to ‘unsee’ what they’ve done, buy just a suggestion before you throw it all in and start ripping elements up:

 

1. Have a friend/colleague (who doesn’t know about the issue) visit and give their opinion on the floor. Try not to lead the witness, but invite them to cast a critical eye over it as you’ve been so close to the detail it can be difficult to step back and see the wood for the trees.

2. Is it flat?

3. What are the edges like?

4. Are there ripples/other aspects separate to the sequence and configuration of the planks?

 

Building a house definitely comes with a free pair of retrospective 20:20 vision specs and ‘I wish I I’d just done … differently’. I’ve had my own experience of these. Just trying to offer an alternative way of looking at the situation - you may only see these details, but how important are they to resolve *now*?

 

Obviously this doesn’t detract from the frustration of having briefed someone, checked understanding and been on hand for any questions / points to check and then had them just go and do this:

…

 

 

@Nickfromwales Bit of a harsh opening line imho.

 

We’re a way off floor being laid, and I could understand that a glue-down floor can’t have anyone else who may generate dust / in the vicinity, but why wouldn’t you have any other trade on the whole site if they’re working in a completely different area? I could have easily fallen foul of this (but have taken note 😁)

It’s not harsh, it’s just direct; we’re all helping but it’s pointless fluffing any pillows. The man wants his house finished, and if I sound critical it’s just because if I see a flaw I say so. “Zero varnish” is how one previous client described me in a conversation, but quickly followed up by saying that is one of the reasons they wanted me to work with them. “No BS”. Also, nobody’s perfect. 
 

It’s how I operate these days, for self build clients, eg to get the best possible outcome, the soonest, with the best people; you often have to stay focussed on a single task to get it done precisely, vs having too many plates spinning.

 

>90% of self builders are doing so to get a flawless home, free from the very issues / compromises that sparked the idea, so “I get it”.
 

Is it right or fair to have to baby-sit these individuals, as well as pay them, probably not, has history repeated itself for @Spinny and others here, yes, it has, and it’s often reported to be time consuming, stressful, and costly. My above ‘harshness’ is just a binary nudge towards reducing or deleting these types of occurrences. 

 

3 hours ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

site if they’re working in a completely different area?

Because that’s an additional plate that you’ll have spinning, detracting from what should be getting 100% of your attention. Nothing to do with dust, simply all about zero distraction; leaving the room for 4 hours for the floor layer to ‘go rogue’ was clearly a huge mistake.

[Great_scot_selfbuild]

14 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

It’s not harsh, it’s just direct

Hmmm, it still lacked any constructive ‘now what’ that this forum (and you) are often so good at. That was all - just an observation, given that @Spinny is clearly so frustrated and probably wishing he’d done xyz…

 

2 hours ago, saveasteading said:

Do something elsewhere today.

@Spinny Absolutely this! ☝🏻

[Tetrarch]

I built a randomiser spreadsheet using the RAND function to cycle through weighted combinations until I found one I liked for a mosiac tiling project.

 

The way you do this is use numerical values for each cell and then ascribe a different conditional format to colour each cell. Every time you calculate you get a different pattern. I just cycled through until I got a weighting that closely matched the number of tiles I had. After each run they were all random, but some just looked "wrong" so I just ran it again until I had one I liked

I resurrected it for my porcelain tiles. I had only four different designs, thus eight different tiles if you include orientation. I then labelled each pile of tiles A-G and gave my tiler the pattern, then it's an instruction, not a guide

 

Regards

Tet

 

 

[G and J]

1 hour ago, Nickfromwales said:

4 hours ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

site if they’re working in a completely different area?

Because that’s an additional plate that you’ll have spinning, detracting from what should be getting 100% of your attention. Nothing to do with dust, simply all about zero distraction

+1 to this......it makes it feel as if your'e not achieving much in the short term, but ......

[Nickfromwales]

1 hour ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

Hmmm, it still lacked any constructive ‘now what’ that this forum (and you) are often so good at. That was all - just an observation, given that @Spinny is clearly so frustrated and probably wishing he’d done xyz…

 

@Spinny Absolutely this! ☝🏻

I disagree completely. 
 

Wet nursing someone isn’t a help, it’s a hinderance.