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Just spent a few days with my colonial cousins, one who lives in Walnut Creek, California.

She is a very clever, ex banker, and fully qualified accountant, so hates paying for anything.  Got chatting about energy bills and she said they were paying $1000/month.  Now her house is a lot larger than mine, and they work from home now, so would be more expensive.

Now I am home, I thought I would have a look at Californian prices.

California prices are 58% higher than the national average, makes my penny per kWh rural surcharge seem quite reasonable.

 

PG&E Rate
Rate type
Rate per kWh
RESIDENTIAL TIME-OF-USE SERVICE FOR PLUG-IN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CUSTOMERS TOU 30-61¢
RESIDENTIAL TIME-OF-USE (PEAK PRICING 4 - 9 p.m. EVERY DAY)- All Electric TOU 36-61¢

 

Southern Californian Edison Rate
Rate type
Rate per kWh
Option B Residence All-Electric Allocation TOU 18-77¢
Option DT - Single Family All-Electric Allocation TOU 34-59¢
Option DT - Single Family TOU 34-59¢
Time-Of-Use Residential (5-8 PM) Single-Family Residence TOU 29-82¢
Time-Of-Use Residential (Prime) All-Electric Allocation TOU 27-64¢
Option A Single-Family Residence All-Electric Allocation TOU 12-92¢
Time-Of-Use Residential Rate (4-9 PM) Single-Family Residence All-Electric Allocation TOU 30-66¢
Time-Of-Use Residential Rate (4-9 PM) Single-Family Residence TOU 30-66¢
Option A Single-Family Residence TOU 12-92¢
Option B Residence TOU 18-77¢
Data last updated by our partner WattBuy on Feb 8, 2026
 
 
San Diego and Electric Co Rate
Rate type
Rate per kWh
DOMESTIC TIME-OF-USE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES, ENERGY STORAGE, OR ELECTRIC HEAT PUMPS TOU 34-72¢
RESIDENTIAL - TIME OF USE SERVICE - DR TOU 29-53¢
COST-BASED DOMESTIC TIME-OF-USE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES TOU 10-71¢
DOMESTIC TIME-OF-USE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING TOU 27-75¢
DOMESTIC TIME-OF-USE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES TOU 21-70¢
DOMESTIC TIME-OF-USE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH A SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEM TOU 31-66¢
RESIDENTIAL TIME-OF-USE - DR2 All Electric TOU 28-68¢
Posted
14 minutes ago, dpmiller said:

Am I right in thinking the standing charges/ delivery costs are much higher in the US?

Never go that far in the conversation.  That is for another day with them, which I have no idea when it will be, but she is looking to retire to Spain, so less of a journey.

Posted

Daughter lives in Trenton and Electricity is 12c per Kw/h and monthly charge is $6...she has 15Kw of panels which cost $30000 but then claimed a third back from state grant and a third back from Tax as well as capital allowance on full cost on federal tax. Her meter builds credits during over production then uses credits during lean times- so free battery! she gets carbon credits at $900/ year and end of year payment on any outstanding meter credits-which were $1200 last year. She has paid only $60 per year for the benefit of using the grid network.

We are mugs in UK....

Posted
1 hour ago, gravelrash said:

Trenton

Ah, Trenton, PA, part of the rust belt.

I lived in Meltdown Midtown, PA, slightly more classy.

Unless she is on the NJ side.

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