Where to run down pipe

[Pocster]

Bit stuck as to best route here .

 

Want to tap off the roof guttering in the top right . SWMBO not keen on a visible pipe . I can run on the wall or on the copings ( look shit ? ) , or straight down to a water butt .

Any other suggestions ? . Best place is yellow/ green route as tank can be out the way . But it creates a visible pipe .

Edited August 17 by Pocster

[Redbeard]

Make a feature of it with a step-down 'cascade' made of gutter off-cuts screwed to (a board screwed to) the wall, then it won't be 'in your face', but artistic.

[Pocster]

I think if I do that it will look autistic rather than artistic !

 

Another issue . If I do stick a water butt to the left the overflow can’t just go over the soil so I should put into the main drain ??

 

Theres a small access chamber nearby ( photo tomorrow ) so overflow say mdpe buried in ground and drill into side of sewer chamber ??

[Nickfromwales]

The ‘rain chains’ look cool.

[Super_Paulie]

stainless downpipe would like quite fitting in that space i reckon.

[Pocster]

22 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

The ‘rain chains’ look cool.

IT’s got to run horizontal though . Chat advised me against putting a butt in that below ground section as the overflow from that puts more pressure on my sump

Edited August 18 by Pocster

[Pocster]

I checked that access chamber thing - it’s not an access chamber is it . Anyway for reasons I can’t recall I put it in sometime ago . So the overflow could run into this .

Did think about taking the copings off and chasing a trench in the wall to embed the pipe ; but as that is far too much work poo poo’d the idea .

 

I think my only real option is a black plastic pipe right at the top of the wall just below coping level running horizontal.

[Pocster]

[Pocster]

So tank and as I said presume should be mdpe overflow as buried into a hole in that thingy .

[saveasteading]

54 minutes ago, Pocster said:

only real option is a black plastic pipe right at the top of the wall 

As aesthetics appear to be foremost, I suggest a Lindab gutter instead, colour to merge or to feature, and  oversized to ensure capacity. The downpipe can match or contrast. 

Not chains... they splash.

Big barrel or link another.

The barrel should be considered to be full and all rain runs past.  So drainage as if there was no barrel. It's best for the overflow to go to ground. Do you think a small soakaway would cope?

[Pocster]

2 hours ago, saveasteading said:

As aesthetics appear to be foremost, I suggest a Lindab gutter instead, colour to merge or to feature, and  oversized to ensure capacity. The downpipe can match or contrast. 

Not chains... they splash.

Big barrel or link another.

The barrel should be considered to be full and all rain runs past.  So drainage as if there was no barrel. It's best for the overflow to go to ground. Do you think a small soakaway would cope?

So black down pipe and fittings going into a Lindab gutter running horizontal across the wall to the water butt . That what you’re suggesting ? . Will a half square gutter not overflow ? ( as opposed to an entire pipe ) .
Opened up that sewer access - all good for the overflow to run into .

 

This little “ automated watering system “ going to cost me £500 at this rate 🙄

Edited August 18 by Pocster

[saveasteading]

37 minutes ago, Pocster said:

Will a half square gutter not overflow ? 

Anything big enough will not overflow. A truism I know.

 

These are designed to be horizontal. A slight slope would help a lot and keep it cleaner. 

Edited August 18 by saveasteading

[Pocster]

1 minute ago, saveasteading said:

Anything big enough will not overflow. A truism I know.

 

These are designed to be horizontal. A slight slope would help a lot and keep it cleaner. 

It’s probably the best plan tbh .

So a half round running outlet off the gutter end . Various 30/45 degree turns to get over the wall ; then it just dumps into the horizontal metal half gutter . That it ??

[Pocster]

Though @saveasteading . Access is tricky . I can’t fix half gutter brackets in the middle . Span is 3m - walls too high .

Some metal ‘bar’ spanning that gap that the actual gutter hangs on ??

 

or hire scaffolding ffs !

Edited August 18 by Pocster

[Pocster]

What about something like a unistruct bar bolted to the top of the copings ( I can access from the otherside ) and the guttering clips hang off that ??

[saveasteading]

23 minutes ago, Pocster said:

guttering clips hang off that ??

Will work but I'd prefer face fixed brackets for invisibility.

Save money and amuse the neighbours by accepting the ends of ranges and offcuts, in multiple bright colours.

Or be dull with grey or green.

 

For the sizing can you assess how much roof area currently  goes to that dp?

[Pocster]

1 minute ago, saveasteading said:

Will work but I'd prefer face fixed brackets for invisibility.

Save money and amuse the neighbours by accepting the ends of ranges and offcuts, in multiple bright colours.

Or be dull with grey or green.

 

For the sizing can you assess how much roof area currently  goes to that dp?

Roof area is approx 15m x 3m . If I tip half the guttering in my favour ( which I think is doable ) then I’ll get water off half that .

Cant really lean over the wall to fix anything and drill - way to awkward .

A unistruct to span 3m with only 2 fixings will need to be chunky to hold guttering . Going to look pap .

Might just have to hire scaffolding ( rather than a ladder ) .

[Pocster]

Leaning over left and right I can reduce the unsupported span to 1.4m . I have been told that standard for all guttering is 600cm for brackets . Though looking at my black guttering ( roofer installed ) I think he must of run out of clips ! - certainly not 600cm gap …

Do I risk 1.4m ?

[Pocster]

Perhaps I lean over the coping from above ; do the middle bracket “ as best I can “ then the others to suit as I can lean to get them . Happier with the longest unsupported run at around 700cm then 

Edited August 18 by Pocster

[Onoff]

Paint a brick effect on or stick brick slips to the pipe?

[Pocster]

9 minutes ago, Onoff said:

Paint a brick effect on or stick brick slips to the pipe?

How the (expletive deleted) will that look !

Some (expletive deleted)ing brick effect Lino wrapped round a pipe . Rather have a photo of my manhood on the pipe ; pipes just about long enough 😘😉

[Mike]

If you can find a bung (68mm » 40 reducer +40mm bung?), then you could have a capped-off 'stub' downpipe just long enough to fit a rainwater diverter. The connect that to a black hosepipe and run that along the top of the wall. Or even under the coping stones?

[Onoff]

Run it on top of the coping and hide under some powder coated, folded sections to mimic the coping. 

[Pocster]

Thinking this might look smart 

[Onoff]

So basically you're after suggestions where to shove it?