Ceiling Plasterboard Removal Options

[Gaf]

All our flat ceiling plasterboard that was skim finished has to be removed due to an error. Two options for removal have been offered (A vs B in attached photos).

 

Person who made the error prefers A, which is cutting all boards up to 5cm from the wall, replacing cut out boards and skimming back up to the 5cm. They say it’s significantly easier to reskim this and significantly cheaper.

 

Option B has been recommending by external crew who reviewed the issue. B involves cutting the boards on the walls approximately 10cm down from the ceiling, removing this 10cm section, and removing all ceiling boards. Person who made the error says this is prohibitively expensive and much more difficult for the skim plasterer to neaten up. Said can’t guarantee a neat flush finish on the wall with option B but can with skim flush with ceiling with option A.

 

I haven’t included the error causing this as my main priority is identifying if there’s any real difference for a skim plasterer (forgive incorrect term) having to neaten / reskim A vs B.

 

 

[Gaf]

[ProDave]

WHY does it have to be removed?

 

Option A only needs the ceiling re skimmed.  Option B needs walls partly skimmed and feathering in so will be a lot more work and harder to get a clean finish.

[Gaf]

34 minutes ago, ProDave said:

WHY does it have to be removed?

 

Mould infestation on the paper backing of all ceiling plasterboard.

 

If we were getting cornices put in afterwards, be fair to say that any uneven feathering could be disguised as long as the area that is ‘cut’ is behind the cornice?

Edited 23 hours ago by Gaf

[Nickfromwales]

Defo go with A. It's a can of worms you just don't need to open, going to plan B AFAIC. Plan B people need a day off imho.

 

If coving or not, option A means your guy can plaster the ceiling into the internal angles and make this all look like it never happened.

 

Go for plan B and you'll be into a world of pain, so will your guy.

 

If he's willing to rectify then at least let's try and work with the chap; the caveat would be that I would expect the job to be as it was (less the mould obvs) and that any short measures to get off the hook quickly and cheaply will be refused as a resolve.

 

Be amicable and pragmatic, and the end result will reflect this. 

[torre]

I'd go B for less effort and a better finish but presumably you'll end up with some long cut edges parallel with your joists so I hope there's a plan to give these some support 

[Gaf]

55 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Defo go with A. It's a can of worms you just don't need to open, going to plan B AFAIC. Plan B people need a day off imho.

 

If coving or not, option A means your guy can plaster the ceiling into the internal angles and make this all look like it never happened.

 

Go for plan B and you'll be into a world of pain, so will your guy.

 

If he's willing to rectify then at least let's try and work with the chap; the caveat would be that I would expect the job to be as it was (less the mould obvs) and that any short measures to get off the hook quickly and cheaply will be refused as a resolve.

 

Be amicable and pragmatic, and the end result will reflect this. 

 

The plasterer who has to do the work isn’t the one who caused the issue, but I do appreciate getting the question answered on which is the more difficult piece of work.

[Nickfromwales]

31 minutes ago, Gaf said:

 

The plasterer who has to do the work isn’t the one who caused the issue, but I do appreciate getting the question answered on which is the more difficult piece of work.

Sorry, been a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong day.

 

If you want a solution that has a simple and happy outcome then A, regardless of who the heck is who  

 

Option B is a can of worms, angry alien-like worms, with PMS.

[Gaf]

7 hours ago, Nickfromwales said:

Option B is a can of worms, angry alien-like worms, with PMS.

 

And just to understand, even us getting cornices in that would hide any line where the old skim and new skim met, that wouldn’t make it any less of a can of worms? As in, the plasterer wouldn’t have to do as much to hide any line because the line would be behind the cornice?

[torre]

Sorry posted after a long day and realised I said B when I meant A 😳 hopefully the point about long cut edges will make more sense now!

[Nickfromwales]

35 minutes ago, torre said:

Sorry posted after a long day and realised I said B when I meant A 😳 hopefully the point about long cut edges will make more sense now!

To cut 100mm down the walls would mean that you’d have to dab or mechanically fix where the old meets new, meaning you’ll very likely see that at the tops of the walls. You’re then into plastering the walls, or a boatload of filling and sanding, and it would likely be cheaper and better to just pay to get the room skimmed all round again.

 

If you don’t want (need) to cut into the walls then don’t. If you go for A (cutting the ceiling only).
 

With A you won’t need coving, so only fit that if you want it, and there’s already scrim tape where the ceiling meets the walls so you’ll be fine; eg you won’t have cracks appearing.