Discount obtained?

[mjc55]

Looking at window suppliers and currently have quotes from Norrsken, Internorm & Rationel.

 

All have mentioned discounting final price but I was wondering about others experience of this and what sort of discount they got in the end.

 

Just in the process of trying to work out totals (separating out install, VAT etc) but total costs at the mo in the region of £50k (ex VAT).

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

[Alan Ambrose]

Possible to give us a cost per square metre of window area as a comparison?

[mjc55]

2 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said:

Possible to give us a cost per square metre of window area as a comparison?

 

Not really!  The cost per window varies a lot depending on size, opening etc.  e.g. a 3.15 sq. m. non opening window comes out at £404 per sq. m. whereas a 0.52 sq.m. opening window (i.e. very small) is £1264 sq.m.

 

The cost is the cost tbh I am more interested in what sort of discount may be available and getting others experience of this is the reason for my post.

[craig]

Anything,it really depends. Some are very limited on what they can offer and other cans supply 20% plus if they really want the job (they're basically buying the job at that level) and it leaves questions as to why and leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As they're clearing chancing there arms if they can offer it. 

[Benpointer]

Just looking at my quotes from Norrsken.  They came down by about 7% but... we kept opting for more expensive options so we're pretty much back where we started.   

 

I could possibly have negotiated a bit harder but Internorm and Rationel were about the same price.

 

End result is £40k exc VAT inc installation for our set of seven tilt and turn windows, two fixed windows, one x 4m wide lift & slide door, and three alu-clad composite doors (one with side- glazed panels).  All glazing is 3G, alu-clad frames.  Windows: P33A, Doors: S305A, Lift & slide: s315A.

 

If I take off the composite doors and installation costs it's about £1000 per m2 for the windows / lift & slide.

 

All now in manufacturing.  Good support from Norrsken so far.

 

 

[flanagaj]

On 25/05/2025 at 20:24, Benpointer said:

Just looking at my quotes from Norrsken.  They came down by about 7% but... we kept opting for more expensive options so we're pretty much back where we started.   

 

I could possibly have negotiated a bit harder but Internorm and Rationel were about the same price.

 

End result is £40k exc VAT inc installation for our set of seven tilt and turn windows, two fixed windows, one x 4m wide lift & slide door, and three alu-clad composite doors (one with side- glazed panels).  All glazing is 3G, alu-clad frames.  Windows: P33A, Doors: S305A, Lift & slide: s315A.

 

If I take off the composite doors and installation costs it's about £1000 per m2 for the windows / lift & slide.

 

All now in manufacturing.  Good support from Norrsken so far.

 

 

The fitting is the kicker.  Ours is literally 25% of the window and door cost.  £10k does seem very pricey.

[mjc55]

Depends what you mean by fitting but on our quote

 

Windows & Doors	35565
Sills & Trims	937
Installation	5850
Silicone	933
Survey	250
Access etc	1920
Delivery	720

 

So £10610 on a £35.3k window cost!

 

Went for another look at windows yesterday and we are leaning towards Norsken but I maybe need to question the "extras".  I know they aren't exactly extra but it does seem excessive.

 

[Benpointer]

12 hours ago, mjc55 said:

Depends what you mean by fitting but on our quote

 

Windows & Doors	35565
Sills & Trims	937
Installation	5850
Silicone	933
Survey	250
Access etc	1920
Delivery	720

 

So £10610 on a £35.3k window cost!

 

Went for another look at windows yesterday and we are leaning towards Norsken but I maybe need to question the "extras".  I know they aren't exactly extra but it does seem excessive.

 

We said no to the silicone - thought we'd do that ourselves.  Late on in the order process I said I was thinking of changing my mind and asking them to do it...

 

But it turns out they seal the windows with plain silicone anyway and the 'Silicone' quote is for external RAL colour-matched finishing silicon.  Since we're cladding with timber and render after the windows go in we'll be doing the finishing silicone ourselves with clear at the appropriate time, knowing the structure is watertight anyway.

Edited 10 hours ago by Benpointer

[Benpointer]

For comparison, our final cost also from Norrsken:

 

Windows & doors   £ 32,306
Sills & trims   £ 747
Installation   £ 5,560
Delivery   £ 780
Total  ex VAT   £ 39,393

 

We're borrowing a telehandler from our groundworker, hence no Access cost - so that was a win!

[Benpointer]

13 hours ago, flanagaj said:

The fitting is the kicker.  Ours is literally 25% of the window and door cost.  £10k does seem very pricey.

Last time we had our chippie and his mate fit our 3G windows.  Worked out ok but not sure it was much cheaper overall and I am sure if we'd had any water ingress issues* our warranty would have been worthless. 

 

(*We didn't as it happened)

[mjc55]

2 hours ago, Benpointer said:

We said no to the silicone - thought we'd do that ourselves.  Late on in the order process I said I was thinking of changing my mind and asking them to do it...

 

But it turns out they seal the windows with plain silicone anyway and the 'Silicone' quote is for external RAL colour-matched finishing silicon.  Since we're cladding with timber and render after the windows go in we'll be doing the finishing silicone ourselves with clear at the appropriate time, knowing the structure is watertight anyway.

 

Yes, we will be the same re the silicone.  Timber clad so we can do it.