Post and beam Posted May 8 Posted May 8 I need to scrub the 'scum' off of our new wet screed. Initially this generates a lot of dust so is clearly removing material. I have no idea how far to go with this process. I am using an industrial rotary floor scrubber like you used to see at schools etc. Anyone know the process for this task? Thanks in advance as always. Keith
Nickfromwales Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Is this gypsum anhydrite? On one such screed where the clients opted to have the screed company scrub it off, they stopped when the surface looked like a pumice stone. Visible open pours in the surface, and dry ‘looking’. Not sure how much material was removed as I had to be off site for the screed works after laying the UFH.
nod Posted May 8 Posted May 8 I use a sharp long handled floor scraper Just take the fat off An hour should be enough for a 150 m2 floor
nod Posted May 8 Posted May 8 7 minutes ago, nod said: I use a sharp long handled floor scraper Just take the fat off An hour should be enough for a 150 m2 floor https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16SpT3JiRz/?mibextid=UalRPS
Post and beam Posted May 8 Author Posted May 8 Yes Anhydrite of some variant. I basically scrubbed until the amount of dust being given of reduced to almost zero. I hope thats good enough.
Nickfromwales Posted May 8 Posted May 8 That looks a bit like you've removed loose stuff and polished the stubborn residue? Have you tried a scraper on that polished bit vs where it appears 'matt'?
nod Posted May 8 Posted May 8 2 hours ago, Post and beam said: Yes Anhydrite of some variant. I basically scrubbed until the amount of dust being given of reduced to almost zero. I hope thats good enough. Don’t overthink I tile dozens of these each month Quick scrape Then brush up Seal with diluted SBR
Post and beam Posted May 8 Author Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Nickfromwales said: That looks a bit like you've removed loose stuff and polished the stubborn residue? Have you tried a scraper on that polished bit vs where it appears 'matt'? No scraper yet but i will pick one up tomorrow. To be honest the rotary thing has a mind of its own anyway.
Nickfromwales Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Just now, Post and beam said: No scraper yet but I will pick one up tomorrow. To be honest the rotary thing has a mind of its own anyway. Not sure how aggressive the pad you used was, but it looks like you may need to up your game a bit Looks like a bit of the laitence is still there, but that's not easy to tell from these pics obvs.
Barnboy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 This is my anhydrite screed after I'd taken a floor grinder to it and started hoovering after 3 rounds of sweeping. If you zoom in on the hoovered patch you can see that the aggregate has become visible and looks more open.
Post and beam Posted May 8 Author Posted May 8 In case my scraper does not do the trick tomorrow would you indicate exactly what floor grinder you used please
Barnboy Posted May 9 Posted May 9 https://images.app.goo.gl/uKd67 The one I hired was the same as this link, it had a disc of cutters rather than individual stone like the Husqvarna I've used before which was a handfull and nowhere near as clean finish as this one was.
Andehh Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) On 08/05/2025 at 22:06, Nickfromwales said: 👌 I'm not ashamed to say I watched that twice, that shits cool. Edited May 10 by Andehh 1
Gus Potter Posted May 10 Posted May 10 When designing raft slabs and screeds I set a level and flatness tolerance so this should not happen. It can add to the initial price but at the end of the day someone has to do it. Remedial works always cost more than getting it right first time.
Post and beam Posted May 11 Author Posted May 11 On 09/05/2025 at 23:54, Barnboy said: https://images.app.goo.gl/uKd67 The one I hired was the same as this link, it had a disc of cutters rather than individual stone like the Husqvarna I've used before which was a handfull and nowhere near as clean finish as this one was. If i could find one to hire close to hertfordshire i would do so.
Post and beam Posted Monday at 11:11 Author Posted Monday at 11:11 Does anyone that has experience know if the dust extraction is essential. If i need it i will hire also but it more than doubles the price
Nickfromwales Posted Monday at 16:15 Posted Monday at 16:15 5 hours ago, Post and beam said: Does anyone that has experience know if the dust extraction is essential. If i need it i will hire also but it more than doubles the price If you’re running a CDM site then M class extraction is requisite, vs sweeping up, to control dust etc that otherwise then becomes airborne. If you’re DIY, then keep the family out and get a decent cartridge filter mask. Do NOT expect contractors to breathe that in (plz), but I’m assuming you’re doing this whilst the site is vacant for practicality.
Post and beam Posted Monday at 16:29 Author Posted Monday at 16:29 Nick no i dont expect anyone else to endure my efforts to remove the Laitence. I intend to use my trusty Henry hoover attached to the grinder, and if i have to change the bags often then its a reasonable compromise against another £240 for an extractor. More than the grinder itself as it happens.
Barnboy Posted Monday at 21:54 Posted Monday at 21:54 I had hardly any dust whilst grinding, the skirt on the machine kept it down, the only time there was dust was when I swept everything up.
Nickfromwales Posted Monday at 22:07 Posted Monday at 22:07 11 minutes ago, Barnboy said: I had hardly any dust whilst grinding, the skirt on the machine kept it down, the only time there was dust was when I swept everything up. On sites were now supposed to use M class filtration vacuum cleaners (dust extractors) and avoid sweeping up wherever possible; with good reason tbf. If you're all alone, this rule doesn't really apply as you are not affecting others, so a good mask would suffice (not the shitty paper ones btw).
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