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On 20/03/2025 at 18:18, Benpointer said:

The utterly ridiculous aspect of all this is that we're going to be planting about 20 trees in our 0.85 acre plot which is currently concrete and grass - no hedges, no trees, no shrubs, nothing.

@Benpointer Since you have plenty of space to add the 10% biodiversity points, you might be better off foregoing the self build exemption, with its associated costs and S106 restrictions. I’ve heard a habitat survey and assessment costs about £2k.

 

Its another irritating and unnecessary professional fee, but being pragmatic, maybe the BNG self build exemption is more trouble than it’s worth. 

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43 minutes ago, LnP said:

@Benpointer Since you have plenty of space to add the 10% biodiversity points, you might be better off foregoing the self build exemption, with its associated costs and S106 restrictions. I’ve heard a habitat survey and assessment costs about £2k.

 

Its another irritating and unnecessary professional fee, but being pragmatic, maybe the BNG self build exemption is more trouble than it’s worth. 

We've considered that but, it's all about timing now.  Will it take longer to draft, sign and deliver a S106 or to have a BNG report created and signed off by Environmental Services?  Who knows!

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The s106 will be dealt with by the Council's legal department and the planners will be their "clients". Have you known lawyers to do anything quickly? I'd sort out the BNG and avoid the s106 altogether.

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Update:  The Council's legal department have been in contact with our solicitors.  They state that:

 

"I understand that _____________________ are looking to take advantage of the self-build exemption from the Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) regulations. I have been asked to put in place the paperwork to secure the necessary planning obligations.
 
Please note that that the Council have a standard Section 106 Agreement for this purpose and amendments will only be accepted on a site-specific basis.  I would be grateful if you could forward your clients evidence of title to the application site so that I can produce a draft for your comments and approval.
 
Your clients will be responsible for the Council’s legal fees in this matter for which I anticipate being in the region of £1000 (no VAT). I should be grateful to receive your undertaking to pay these fees, either on completion or within two months of written demand. The undertaking should apply irrespective of whether the matter proceeds to completion. I reserve the right to increase my fees should the matter become protracted or more complex.
 
Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you.“

 

So, to unpack that: it's a standard template that we can't change and they are going to rinse us for £1000 to put our names and the site address into that template.  The words 'robbery' and 'daylight' spring to mind.  

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On 20/03/2025 at 18:18, Benpointer said:

The utterly ridiculous aspect of all this is that we're going to be planting about 20 trees in our 0.85 acre plot which is currently concrete and grass - no hedges, no trees, no shrubs, nothing.

Slightly off topic but relevant I think.

 

Our Planners started asking for us to update our BNG.

 

I got back in touch with the Environmental Specialist who did the original one and she responded:

 

I would be happy to recalculate the BNG for you however since I wrote the initial report the government have produced and then latterly updated, guidance which now confirms that BNG cannot be provided within private gardens. This includes all the hedges, trees, grassland etc. With regret I could not now write a report confirming BNG is achievable in a garden so you would need to secure offsite BNG.

 

As she's the expert I can only take her word for it.  But this does seem bonkers.  Seems like the new regs are being made to support multi-build developers and their mates who are setting up off-site biodiversity offset sites.

 

Luckily, when I went back to the planners and questioned their logic for a new report they caved in and signed off the Condition without needing a new one.

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3 hours ago, Bancroft said:

Slightly off topic but relevant I think.

 

Our Planners started asking for us to update our BNG.

 

I got back in touch with the Environmental Specialist who did the original one and she responded:

 

I would be happy to recalculate the BNG for you however since I wrote the initial report the government have produced and then latterly updated, guidance which now confirms that BNG cannot be provided within private gardens. This includes all the hedges, trees, grassland etc. With regret I could not now write a report confirming BNG is achievable in a garden so you would need to secure offsite BNG.

 

As she's the expert I can only take her word for it.  But this does seem bonkers.  Seems like the new regs are being made to support multi-build developers and their mates who are setting up off-site biodiversity offset sites.

 

Luckily, when I went back to the planners and questioned their logic for a new report they caved in and signed off the Condition without needing a new one.

Is this because the BNG gains cannot be legally secured through a 30-year monitoring plan in a private garden?

 

@Benpointer, so what are you going to do? What conditions are in the proposed S106 agreement?

 

I'm more concerned about ecologists setting up biodiversity offset sites, because they on the one hand tell you how many points you have to buy and on the other sell you the points. A clear conflict of interest. This is a mess.

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5 minutes ago, LnP said:

Is this because the BNG gains cannot be legally secured through a 30-year monitoring plan

I have no idea; she didn't elucidate beyond what I quoted and the problem went away so I didn't enquire further.

 

I can't help thinking that the whole BNG saga is going the way of the nitrates fiasco and that, at some point in the future, it's all going to blow up when Joe Public realises what's going on.

 

As an example, we (the local village) used to have free access to a small river and water meadow here within the South Downs National Park.  People used to go there on sunny afternoons to picnic and have the occasional paddle in the stream.  It's out in the country so never any bother with bored 'Yoofs'.

 

Then, suddenly, the whole area was fenced off and signs went up.

 

Apparently, Biffa - out of the goodness of their heart and for no other reason than being a socially responsible company - had purchased the land in order to make it into a wildlife sanctuary.  To protect the wildlife this required them to fence off the area so that it wasn't disturbed.

 

Cue lots of unhappy people.

 

It wasn't until recently that I realised that this was probably just Biffa offsetting BNG as part of a planning application for a new waste site.

 

Now, multiply that by every new planning application being submitted across the UK (especially from the big developers) and suddenly we have a countryside that no-one has access to.

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1 hour ago, LnP said:

Is this because the BNG gains cannot be legally secured through a 30-year monitoring plan in a private garden?

 

@Benpointer, so what are you going to do? What conditions are in the proposed S106 agreement?

 

I'm more concerned about ecologists setting up biodiversity offset sites, because they on the one hand tell you how many points you have to buy and on the other sell you the points. A clear conflict of interest. This is a mess.

We haven't seen the S106 yet but I am expecting it to stipulate that we must live in the house for at least 3 years after completion, presumably for some get-out clause in the event of the death or serious illness of one of us.   I will post on here as soon as we see it.

 

We intend to sign it if at all possible.  Had we known we would have to do so at the time we applied, we might have opted for a BNG.  Rather aggrieved that the goalposts were moved after our application went - I suspect that is challengeable in the courts but...  delays are the very last thing we want.

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On 28/03/2025 at 17:23, Benpointer said:

delays are the very last thing we want.

Sadly this is the leverage that some planning authorities use to get their own way even if it is a bit doubtful legally......

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