Building regulations Discharge conservation area

[PSC88]

Hi we are in the process of submitting building regulations and materials to our local council after achieving full planning.

 

we have submitted materials and the officer has come back rejecting pretty much all my materials.

 

“We have chosen a brick colour which matches the local area and numerous other houses and gone for UPVc windows and guttering along with tiles to match with cast stone cills under the windows

 

Again there’s a lot of development in the area (3 new builds on my street alone) in the last 5 years all have upvc windows and very similar brick and tiles.

 

officer states he wants us to use a ‘local brick’?

 

Timber frame windows? And not use faux stone cills?

 

the property we are demolishing to build currently has UPVC windows and concrete tiles and this was built in 1990.

 

it makes no sense to me and how have all the other properties locally got away with the above materials.

 

how do I go about challenging this? I don’t really want the maitenance

of timber window frames and the additional costs involved.

 

It also took us a long time to select the Hampshire red brick we have and we really worked hard to match this with neighbouring properties?

 

can I challenge this and how strict will they be?

 

many thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[nod]

Yes you can 

Our first was part of a listed farm 

Same as you they rejected everything 

Told us we had to use local slate Even though there was a new development across that had red concrete tiled roof 

The render wasn’t acceptable 

Insisted on hardwood sash windows 

Even though the farm had 1980s Everest Ally 

Insisted we matched our stonework to the farmhouse Even though the farm had been completely rendered in the 70s 

The list goes on 

We challenged everything and they backed down 

 

If you where a developer building a hundred houses With a team of planning consultant on the payroll 

There would be no objections 

They are Dicking you around Simply because they can 

[PSC88]

Hi Rod thanks for your reply

 

Can I ask how you challenged this ?

 

did you use any professional help?

 

did you have to evidence the local developments who didn’t have the the restrictions on there build 

[EdHat]

@PSC88write a letter making your case, reference policies from the local plan that you are complying with, and give local justification for materials including photos and recent uses. I find planners stipulating materials a bit of a nonsense as it'll likely be permitted development for you to change your roof covering, windows, render afterwards anyway.

I had planners tell me they didn't like mono-pitch dormers and wanted traditional pitched dormers. There was a reason I'd included mono-pitch in my design and i wasn't going to back down. I struggled to find  local examples, but made the point that policy doesn't forbid them and they'd recently approved flat roof dormers, so if I couldn't have mono-pitch id go for flat, knowing they couldn't object to this.

They backed down as they'd obviously rather anything but flat dormers.

 

So what I'm saying is, even if you can't find examples of what you want, sometimes giving examples of something worse works.

[Temp]

10 hours ago, PSC88 said:

It also took us a long time to select the Hampshire red brick we have and we really worked hard to match this with neighbouring properties?

 

You can either fight them or find out what bricks they approved on other new builds in your street. Make sure to tell them they are the same as already approved up the road. Ditto the windows.

Edited yesterday at 01:20 by Temp

[Blooda]

Section 69 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 defines a conservation area as an area of “special architectural or historic interest, the character or appearance of which it is desirable to preserve or enhance”.

 

Always worth a quote, preserving the character of the area in line with "Section 69......" by retaining the window material, but enhancing it with a more traditional design".  

 

Justify each choice of material. 

 

I would guarantee if you fitted flush casement windows, most people couldn't spot the difference between wood and PVC at 22 metres.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jilly]

My neighbours (in a Conservation Area) wanted to change their windows to upvc and applied to the council and were approved with some similar to those. You are right, you can’t tell.