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7 minutes ago, JohnMo said:

Just found the reference document average for all domestic is 7.3kW, driven up by the older housing stock

 

https://tools.bregroup.com/heatpumpefficiency/dwelling-heat-loss

That was the doc I was trying to remember. 

 

I think my error was I was focused on the older housing as that is where my professional interest lies as I manage rental properties, most of which are victorian or early 1900's vintage. 

 

My main interest in. HPs is because I can see I am goi g to have to deal with the upgrades in the future and am trying to work out how to approach it. 

 

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7 hours ago, Beelbeebub said:

 

I think my error was I was focused on the older housing as that is where my professional interest lies as I manage rental properties, most of which are victorian or early 1900's vintage. 

 

My main interest in. HPs is because I can see I am goi g to have to deal with the upgrades in the future and am trying to work out how to approach it. 

That is an interesting problem, and one that may require a creative engineering solution.

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2 hours ago, SteamyTea said:

That is an interesting problem, and one that may require a creative engineering solution.

The thing is, I don't think it requires any creative or novel engineering. 

 

The major hurdles are finance and regulations (sound, visual etc) 

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13 minutes ago, Beelbeebub said:

The major hurdles are finance and regulations

Ken Tyrrell used to say "an engineer does for 10p what any fool can do for a pound".

That is where the engineering creativity comes in.

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2 hours ago, SteamyTea said:

Ken Tyrrell used to say "an engineer does for 10p what any fool can do for a pound".

That is where the engineering creativity comes in.

 Creativity isn't my problem. It's the restrictions. They, in turn add cost. 

 

I have a nice cladding system i am trialing on an out of the way building. No way I would be allowed to fit it to my main buildings because of planning restrictions combined with it's industrial look

Personally,, I think there is a pint when how warm and cheap to run a building is for the occupants trumps how it looks for the passers by.  But my view is very much in the minority, so solid walls and single glazed windows it is. 

 

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49 minutes ago, Beelbeebub said:

Personally,, I think there is a pint when how warm and cheap to run a building is for the occupants trumps how it looks for the passers by.  But my view is very much in the minority, so solid walls and single glazed windows it is. 

... and how much it contributes to climate change. 

 

But apparently 'conservation' trumps everything.  My LPA wouldn't let me fit double glazed metal framed windows in a refurbished property when  single glazed metal framed windows had to be replaced.  So we were forced to put in new single glazed metal frame windows. 

 

This was in a property originally built in 1860.  Would it even have had metal windows when first built - I doubt it.

 

Nuts.

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