Looking for advice and help for a shed/workshop

[jobe1972]

Hi all new here and have no idea what I am doing so seeking help. I live in a housing association home which I am considering buying, but I need to build a shed at the bottom of the garden for storage wouldn't normally be a issue but as it was a new build in 2011 it had all of its permitted development rights removed all the houses did on the estate that were new all the old existing houses still have there's so I cant build a shed but my neighbour can and has .. So I am assuming I need planning permission the property did have a shed when I moved in but it was cheap and after a few years it collapsed .. seems so odd to me that the process of getting planning permission could cost more then a cheap shed . so any advice or guidance would be grateful for

[DevilDamo]

If Class E PD rights have been removed, then you will require Planning via a Householder application. 

[Alan Ambrose]

I think if the old shed didn’t collapse in the last century, and the old one didn’t look crazy different to the new one … then you’re just ‘replacing the old one’, which is fine. I think I might just do this and see if anyone objects. If you’re in a conservation area, I might be a bit more circumspect.

[DevilDamo]

45 minutes ago, Alan Ambrose said:

just ‘replacing the old one’, which is fine

No it is not. A replacement building or structure is deemed as a new building or structure.

[mr rusty]

If we really are just talking about a garden shed, rather than an outbuilding, then even though technically not permitted, I would just do it. - What's a shed £1K? That's the limit of your risk, and personally I can't see any LA bothering to enforce against a shed if there was one there before. Of course, there's always a chance of a bad neighbour complaining, but if you get one of those, there are ways of hitting back, like suggesting you'll plant a row of tall trees if they are that bothered about seeing a shed.

[joe90]

34 minutes ago, mr rusty said:

 

What evidence do you have of this original shed? At a previous house we had the same situation but no one complained when I put up a small shed.

34 minutes ago, mr rusty said:

bothering to enforce against a shed if there was one there before.

Edited September 7 by joe90

[ProDave]

Check the planning history. You might find the existing shed has PP

[DevilDamo]

4 hours ago, mr rusty said:

just talking about a garden shed, rather than an outbuilding

A shed is an outbuilding, similarly to a greenhouse and detached pergolas which are both deemed as outbuildings. 

[Alan Ambrose]

>>> the process of getting planning permission could cost more then a cheap shed

 

The cost of householder PP is £258, so I'm thinking the OP is thinking of something not a million miles different from this:

 

https://www.screwfix.com/p/shire-6-x-8-nominal-apex-overlap-timber-shed/644TJ

 

Given this will last 5-10 years max, @DevilDamo are you suggesting the OP needs to apply for PP every time he wants to replace it? Even if it is identical to the last one?

[DevilDamo]

@Alan Ambrose PD rights were removed for a reason. The onerous is on the homeowner to check and apply for the necessary approvals. I would not advise anything but to follow the rules… unfortunately.