ToughButterCup Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'm about to pour the last bit of concrete before putting in the wall-plate on the piggery. Have a look at this; Once I have poured the last 100mm or so of concrete, (in the holes you see) I will need to fasten the wall-plate to it. Should I run the wall-plate right the way through the gable, or cut the wall-plate flush with the gable and fill that with concrete? The image below should help explain.. I have deliberately not poured concrete into the gable block in line with the wall-plate - just in case your advice is that the wall-plate should run all the way through the gable Maybe it doesn't matter, and both options are reasonable. Just for information, this building isn't subject to Building Regs: it replaces the old piggery which has stood there for about a century or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichS Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 The wall plate does not go into the gable. Just butt it up to the gable blocks and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alex Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 what RichS said. I was told it doesn't really matter but have the outside forward run down to the corner but it was easier for me to run into gable bottom. Mainly because I was cutting corner blocks and therefore would have to add inside edge of EPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I wonder if there's any merit casting in projecting studs ready for the wallplate or indeed have over length studs bolted to the wall plate. When the concrete is dry nut ' em down! You would of course have to pre know where your trusses are going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Hmmm, excellent idea(s) @Onoff The roof will be vaulted, so no need for trusses. I like the projecting studs idea. I'd have to set them in some kind of 'chair' so they are perfectly vertical.... I like the idea partly because I have about a mile of threaded bar left over from the shuttering. The other thing is the the wall plate can be tweeked perfectly level with that system (- I suppose: never been here before as usual ) Thanks for the photo @Alex. I like that corner detail. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, recoveringacademic said: Hmmm, excellent idea(s) @Onoff The roof will be vaulted, so no need for trusses. I like the projecting studs idea. I'd have to set them in some kind of 'chair' so they are perfectly vertical.... I like the idea partly because I have about a mile of threaded bar left over from the shuttering. The other thing is the the wall plate can be tweeked perfectly level with that system (- I suppose: never been here before as usual ) Thanks for the photo @Alex. I like that corner detail. Makes sense. It is the sort of thing I'd do just to see if I could! So...thinking out loud: - Maybe some vertical, batten supports coming up off the rear face of the wall - Wall plate needs to be neatly drilled with vertical holes i.e. not on the pi$$. - Slightly over size the holes - If you want the fixing nuts recessed then drill first with a spade bit just bigger than the socket you will use to tighten them. Then drill thru with your say 14mm bit for M12 stud. - Fill with concrete - Expanding metal tacked to rear of wall plate - drill thru each location again to clear the mesh - Screw wall plate to temporary uprights (level). A few inches up in the air. - Poke studs thru into concrete...would you want a "bend" on the end? Could add a couple of nuts and big square washer. - When concrete is dry, drop wall plate down onto a sticky mortar bed having first cut the studs to length. - Nut it up! Or ignore me an drill / resin fix after the concrete! Edited October 25, 2017 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Right, @Onoff, I really like that approach. So, I'll mock it all up today, take some photos and post them here later. It's the journey (code for 'learning') that really matters. It takes a huge chunk of time, but sod it, I enjoy learning for myself. Even falling walls can teach you stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, recoveringacademic said: Right, @Onoff, I really like that approach. So, I'll mock it all up today, take some photos and post them here later. It's the journey (code for 'learning') that really matters. It takes a huge chunk of time, but sod it, I enjoy learning for myself. Even falling walls can teach you stuff. Someone will be along shortly to tell you I'm leading you astray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Ahhh, the more the better...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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