twice round the block Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 We've had planning granted for a drop kerb, new driveway and garage with store. The approval will expire in April if we don't start work on it. Question. How much of the work do we need to do to keep the planning live for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Best to ask the planners. It may be just doing the dropped curb or the foundations for the garage. It does not look controversial so they may be easy going about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 It varies dramatically by region. You really need to ask. My hunch is that the first job should be the dropped kerb, and there would be no argument. Quite expensive. An alternative might be preparing the driveway to the stage of hardcore, but you shouldn't drive over the existing kerb to do it. Plus they might think you are ignoring the kerb requirement. If I may ask, why haven't you proceeded with the project? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice round the block Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, saveasteading said: If I may ask, why haven't you proceeded with the project? Putting this plot on the back-burner due to English Nature enforcing a blanket ban on new developments in the area. When it's lifted will try to get a house on the plot instead of the garage / store 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 OK. That is too big a deal to risk. You'll need a council approved contractor for the x-over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice round the block Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Thank you for the input by @Mr Punter and @saveasteading Council have now informed us that we only need to put in a small section of piling for the garage foundation's and not the full footprint. Don't need to do the drop curb, drive or parking area. Bit of a result for a change. Have another go for a house in a couple of year's, hopefully the restrictions would have been lifted by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, twice round the block said: small section of piling What do you mean by piling? Tubes banged into the ground are expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandgmitchell Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 And be aware that if this is over 30m2 it'll need a building regulation application submitted. The piling will need designing by an engineer and approved by BC. You can't really do a "small section" of piling 'cos the rig and site set up etc loads a lot of the cost. Spread over many piles it's not so bad but for a few then it'll be an expensive hobby - that's if you can interest a piling co in doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I would go for the dropped curb and crossover. That will probably be cheaper than a piling rig for just a few piles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I'm wondering if @twice round the block means trench footings. I've heard this described as pilings before (in error or as a local term, I don't know). Hence the query. Otherwise , just getting a rig on site will be a few £k, plus full SE design. dropped kerb and reconstruction of footpath/crossing might be about £3k. @ProDave please curb your use of this american term for kerb. I had to add kerb to the spellcheck dictionary. Twice, if you tell us more about the garage design, and ground conditions, then we can help you choose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice round the block Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Tree survey stipulates we have to have a pile foundation with fully suspended slab. Footprint is 6.5m x 8m. and the garage construction is timber with timber cladding under slate roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, twice round the block said: Tree survey stipulates we have to have a pile foundation Seems harsh for a garage. sometimes this can be too cautious. how far away are the trees and what type?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice round the block Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 The sight plan on my original post shows where the tree canopy / root spread is on site. Where the digger is located, that is the position of the garage footprint and the spindly pine behind the digger has now gone as it was dead at the crown. All a bit of over kill for the footings from an over zealous tree officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandgmitchell Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Well that's well over 30m2 floor area. It'll need a building reg application so design and calcs for the foundations. Given that the house is yet to be given planning approval you may want the flexibility of not having garage foundations set in concrete so to speak... The crossover may be worth at least getting a quote on to compare with what will be substantial foundation works. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Exactly. The tree officers concern is the trees, not the building. A garage could sit on the surface with a light structural raft. A house will be completely different. 2 economical choices Crossover A simple slab with no foundations But.....* I'd do the x-over. The last time I did this to lock planning, we just did hardcore. BUT the planner wanted to see the complete design and bco approval to show it was relevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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