SteamyTea Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Interesting listen, not really sure what his conclusion was. "Listen to me" I think. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r1b2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Walker Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Interesting listen, not really sure what his conclusion was. "Listen to me" I think. I have listened to them all. His conclusion is that planning needs to change, but he's not sure in what way. Buildings do have souls and that is NOT how they look from the outside. Architecture is not just about how something looks, and IMHO that is the least important aspect, for homes it's more about its function and the niceness (health and happiness) to live in and live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Adrian Walker said: His conclusion is that planning needs to change Well that is a forgone conclusion, as he said (or was it someone else), you deal with a lot of people that have different ideas. Don't think ecologists where mentioned, they want nothing built anywhere. I am not sure that he is really the person to be talking about normal architecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Walker Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Well that is a forgone conclusion, as he said (or was it someone else), you deal with a lot of people that have different ideas. Don't think ecologists where mentioned, they want nothing built anywhere. I am not sure that he is really the person to be talking about normal architecture. That's just architects spending other people's money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Adrian Walker said: That's just architects spending other people's money. Yes. He touched on the price of building houses, said that the nice ones cost more then the nasty ones 100 years ago. Used that as justification to build expensive houses, ones that will last 1000 years. Edited October 22, 2023 by SteamyTea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Potter Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 hours ago, SteamyTea said: Interesting listen, not really sure what his conclusion was. Thanks @SteamyTea will give this a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 17 hours ago, Adrian Walker said: That's just architects spending other people's money It was summarised in 3 newspaper articles. I further summarise. He's very good, but we are all nearly all Philistines. A very few clients appreciate how good he is and are prepared to spend the money. Simple and efficient is bad. Fiddly and complex is good. Money .....ahhh I don't remember that being mentioned as his concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonD Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 18 hours ago, SteamyTea said: Interesting listen, not really sure what his conclusion was. "Listen to me" I think. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r1b2 I scanned the articles rather than listened. It seems we repeat this same circle every so often with someone from the architectural world making the same complaint. Once upon a time it was Prince Charles complaining about the Southbank and city planning me thinks. I totally agree that a lot of what is being built is horrible, especially the monoculture estates being thrown up merely to maximise the profits of large developers while screwing the customers. I'm sure that being an architect designing these things must be soul destroying. 14 minutes ago, saveasteading said: Simple and efficient is bad. Fiddly and complex is good. Shame it's often missed that simple and efficient can also be highly aesthetic, but can also be more difficult to design as it's about more subtle relationship and proportion rather than a grand statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, SimonD said: Shame it's often missed that simple and efficient can also be highly aesthetic, but can also be more difficult to design as it's about more subtle relationship and proportion rather than a grand statement. I agree with you there. As a cheap work around, why don't designers project an image of their proposal onto a screen at the back of the plot. I know virtual reality is meant to do with, but it is still very artificial and depends on the accuracy of the initial plot survey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, SimonD said: being an architect designing these things must be soul destroying I've met them. Technicians cut and pasting the maximum number of standard boxes into the available space. Planners and locals can comment ( free design checks) on design errors such as no ambulance access or bin spaces, or that tree they hadn't noticed etc. I don't think the soul was there to be destroyed. I think the fee may have been very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 17 hours ago, Adrian Walker said: That's just architects spending other people's money In many cases it was once our money, being spent by corporations (banks, universities, public buildings) on a monument to themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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