Post and beam Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, Brickie said: When you say you want a wider joint-do you mean the bed joints (horizontal),cross joints (vertical) or both? As above,messing with the standard 75mm gauge will cause you problems with your door & window openings,as the timber frame people will design these to standard brickwork dimensions,unless instructed otherwise. Btw the lime added to a cement mix (hydrated) is different to the type you mix lime mortar with (NHL). I did mean vertical and horizontal the same. It was the move away from the normal 75mm spacing that prompted my post. i know very little but enough to realise this is a potential issue. I do want the house to look old and it was a brick merchant that suggested the wider spacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 17 hours ago, joe90 said: With my brick build the bricky used some lime in the mix and it looks good, the joints are about 12mm and the bricks “tumbled” (put in a revolving drum to knock the corners off to make them look old) very pleased with the result. The top of this looks different to the bottom half. Perhaps a trick of the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Post and beam said: do want the house to look old Interesting. Old bricks tended to be bent and twisted so a thicker bed would have resolved the problem. You can still get rustic bricks. They cost more and the brickies will hate them and try to reject about 1/4. I wonder if bricks used to be more expensive than mortar in some areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 I have just looked at my quote for the windows which contains dimensions of the overall frame. Not one of the windows or doors is an exact multiple of 75. Therefore some kind of accomodation is implied. Therefore that accomodation can be made to suit an 80mm spacing. Have i oversimplified the thing or missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, Post and beam said: Perhaps a trick of the light. Must be, they are all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickie Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Post and beam said: I have just looked at my quote for the windows which contains dimensions of the overall frame. Not one of the windows or doors is an exact multiple of 75. Therefore some kind of accomodation is implied. Therefore that accomodation can be made to suit an 80mm spacing. Have i oversimplified the thing or missed something. What structural opening dimensions have they given? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Brickie said: What structural opening dimensions have they given? It drives me mad that some architects still use imperial size opening widths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, Brickie said: What structural opening dimensions have they given? Not totally sure what you expect but here goes dude. 1014 Bedroom windows 564 2036 front door side glazing 2058 Utility outside door 994 Dining room 1464 Living room front window 1164 Bedroom window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Post and beam said: Not totally sure what you expect but here goes dude. 1014 Bedroom windows 564 2036 front door side glazing 2058 Utility outside door 994 Dining room 1464 Living room front window 1164 Bedroom window Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 What does 'Ouch' mean dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickie Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Post and beam said: Not totally sure what you expect but here goes dude. 1014 Bedroom windows 564 2036 front door side glazing 2058 Utility outside door 994 Dining room 1464 Living room front window 1164 Bedroom window Are these the heights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Yes these are the heights. The glazing sizes are written seperately on the quote and these are slightly bigger so i take tyhem to be the overall dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Post and beam said: What does 'Ouch' mean dude? If they are your structural opening heights then not one of them works brick gauge. There must be a reason for this but without section details of the openings it’s difficult to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Canski said: If they are your structural opening heights then not one of them works brick gauge. There must be a reason for this but without section details of the openings it’s difficult to tell. Thanks for your interest. The Window supplier was provided by the house build company. They are local to each other and used to working together. From this i guess they know what each other is doing and that it therefore works. Its possible i have mis understood something but i am taking the vertical sizes directly from their quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Potton do use brick dims, I’m also curious as to why those numbers are so apparently random. Just ask them. assuming there’s some sense behind that… If you’re going to change the mortar depth then that’s going to be a bit of a problem as it will add up. Probably not much but it depends how fussy you are. The dimensions should be the structural openings, you will have to change the size of the windows if you want them to look perfect - but that’s doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortarThePoint Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I sympathise with the brickies on this one. It's like changing the gate of your stride. It can be done but chances are it will mess up. I thought there was an upper limit as well but couldn't find it on a quick Google. There are enough variables with brick style, mortar and bond. We went Flemish, but I also like Monk Bond. English Bond can suit a certain style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) I think this wide mortar joint idea needs to be canned. It was presented to me as a way to achieve and 'old' look. Too much potential to go wrong. Edited February 13, 2023 by Post and beam Typo' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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