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1 hour ago, SteamyTea said:

Have you seen Mr. HD's beard, she will put up with a lot.

(when I visited the IWI was being done and there was a baby somewhere, heard it, never saw it)

You haven't seen my hair recently!

 

Baby?  I knew I'd misplaced something behind the IWI...

 

(The older one turned 18...)

 

Rgds

 

Damon

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On Monday I had a pre-installation visit to discuss details of trenching and other prep works, for a planned install next month.

 

We often don't put our heating on until December, so I may have already done my last space heating with gas in this house.  Consumption has been tiny since April: https://www.earth.org.uk/saving-electricity-2024.html

 

I am developing a scheme for re-integrating the Sunamp and Intasol with the heat-pump DHW which I think might work well (treating the DHW cylinder as if it is a combi in this arrangement, with the DHW cylinder being 1st priority for Eddi diversion/boost output, Sunamp 2nd),

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Modest external groundworks for the heat pump were completed on Friday morning, so it seems this is really going ahead!  I have turned off (low-carbon) grid boost to the Thermino ready for the system to be rearranged...

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Internal prep works today including removing the existing cupboard, disconnecting the Sunamp Thermino, and threading round a new T+E from the Eddi heater 2 output for the Thermino in the new control scheme...

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Management of how these are being delivered by Octopus seems to gotten worse rather than better over time 

@DamonHD - is the crew employed by Octopus or are they over-promising on sales and hoping to backfill delivery capability by subbing out 3rd party installers without a management structure to operate in this manner?

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Everything seems to be working nicely.

 

I have captured current settings/configuration.

 

I shall do some tweaking over the next few days.  Nothing major by the looks of it, certainly less than I had expected.  One thing that I wanted to do does not seem possible (schedule/clock AND external call for heat) but I can live without it, as the external call is reasonably well-behaved.

 

https://www.earth.org.uk/heat-pump-16WW-control.html

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Not sure I understand the last bit about getting an effective CoP of 2 by charging when grid intensity is lower than the mean.

Are you using emissions as a proxy? i.e half the emissions is the same as a heat pump's CoP of 2.

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If at some point the current grid intensity is less than half its average over the last week, then I am claiming that filling my storage boots now is the same as (in CO2 emissions terms) using the heat pump with a CoP of ~2 at some random point during the last week.  Similarly looking forward a couple of days.

 

We are all aware (eg including @Ed Davies!) that there is some contention about that reading, though maybe less so now that constraining excess renewables for reasons other than transmission is becoming more of a thing.

 

In any case I take very low relative grid carbon intensity (and no drawdown from grid storage, aka "supergreen") to be indicative of abundant low-carbon generation and minimal strain on the transmission and distribution system, so a good time also to fill boots.

 

How should I have worded those paras better in my talk?

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1 hour ago, DamonHD said:

How should I have worded those paras better in my talk

Ask your Dad, he is very good at science communication.

 

Failing that,

1 hour ago, DamonHD said:

If at some point the current grid intensity is less than half its average over the last week, then I am claiming that filling my storage boots now is the same as (in CO2 emissions terms) using the heat pump with a CoP of ~2 at some random point during the last week.  Similarly looking forward a couple of days.

You said what I thought you meant, just needed that extra bit of clarification as you are showing that using one technology, with a CoP of 1, and, in some circumstances be thought of as equivalent to another technology with a CoP of 2.

 

1 hour ago, DamonHD said:

We are all aware (eg including @Ed Davies!) that there is some contention about that reading, though maybe less so now that constraining excess renewables for reasons other than transmission is becoming more of a thing.

Yes, this is a problem as we introduce more weather based generation.

It is interesting to look at the phase out of coal generation, some days coal only produced into the grid for a few hours.  While this looks good on the reporting, those power stations were still burning coal as they cannot go from zero to almost 1 GW in half an hour.

What is known as hot spinning reserves or in the case of the zero periods, probably just spinning reserves.

Wind is probably, at the moment, doing the opposite i.e. overproducing and has to be curtailed, sometimes, to allow the larger gas plants to reintroduce power in an orderly manner.

 

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Our overall electricity demand curve this month up to yesterday shows some successful load shifting for DHW at least:

 

https://www.earth.org.uk/heat-pump-16WW-control.html#2024-12-20

 

Load profile over 2020-12-01 to 2020-12-19 inclusive, gross and net/imported. DHW consumption spikes starting at 07:40 and 19:10 are clearly visible.

 

bucketed.202412-01to19.all.png

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