anatomy of a ceiling rose

[Adsibob]

Can somebody please tell me what the little plastic piece, shown in black, on this ceiling rose is called?

 

[joe90]

Cable grip!

[Adsibob]

Thanks @joe90 So if I buy a brass cable grip like this, can i just swap it out for the plastic one in the rose?

[ProDave]

You might be very lucky and find the metal one you linked to has the same thread as the original plastic one.  That is if the plastic one ecen screws in or is fixed some other way.

 

That rose is probably meant to be used with a decorative metal cowl so the appearance of the plastic cable grip does not matter.  Are you trying to use it without the cowl?

[Adsibob]

11 minutes ago, ProDave said:

You might be very lucky and find the metal one you linked to has the same thread as the original plastic one.  That is if the plastic one ecen screws in or is fixed some other way.

 

That rose is probably meant to be used with a decorative metal cowl so the appearance of the plastic cable grip does not matter.  Are you trying to use it without the cowl?

The rose is this one. As far as i can see, no cowl is available for it, so yes I was going to use it as is, without a cowl.

[joe90]

Will the black bit come off? If so just put it in the inside, it won’t need to be “fitted “ just loose,  then you won’t see it at all 🤷‍♂️

[markc]

Vintage style with a visible black plastic grip 🙈

[Adsibob]

2 minutes ago, markc said:

Vintage style with a visible black plastic grip 🙈

my thought exactly! The other option is to return this and find a better alternative elsewhere. The problem is that I also need a matching one with a hook, like this:  https://www.industville.co.uk/products/vintage-edison-lighting-metal-hook-ceiling-rose-single-outlet-antique-brass 

[markc]

1 minute ago, Adsibob said:

my thought exactly! The other option is to return this and find a better alternative elsewhere. The problem is that I also need a matching one with a hook, like this:  https://www.industville.co.uk/products/vintage-edison-lighting-metal-hook-ceiling-rose-single-outlet-antique-brass 

Now that looks vintage, hook looks much better, as joe says, grip on inside or Chuck it away and put a cable tie around the flex on the inside to stop it pulling through.

on the bigger old ceiling roses we used to tie a knot in the flex … they never pull out.

[Adsibob]

3 minutes ago, markc said:

Now that looks vintage, hook looks much better, as joe says, grip on inside or Chuck it away and put a cable tie around the flex on the inside to stop it pulling through.

on the bigger old ceiling roses we used to tie a knot in the flex … they never pull out.

I think the reason it's helpful to have the gripper on the outside is that one can adjust it after the rose has been mounted on the ceiling. i.e. if you want it 5cm longer or shorter you can loosen it and pull or push the flex then tighten it.

[joe90]

2 hours ago, Adsibob said:

So if I buy a brass cable grip like this, can i just swap it out for the plastic one in the rose?

Sorry, missed this bit, yes I guess as long as the threads are the same?, ring the supplier and ask!