Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 I've got to start thinking about my suspended ceiling on the underground mega dungeon. Current 'ceiling' is beam and block or just concrete. I can't seem to find any details about the minimum distance the suspended has to be from the existing. I *recall* from somewhere 100mm. That correct? We are planning recessed lighting. But again as modern recessed lights tend to generate very little heat and are slimmer ( plus also zero timber i.e flammable above ) then perhaps I need not worry? Cheers
Dudda Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 No regulation on what a suspended ceiling void needs to be. You can have it 20mm if you want. It's about what size do you need to hide the services. If you've 100mm waste pipe then it's probably going to be 130mm or so to allow for the pipe and fall. 1
Thorfun Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 I'll have this very same question for my mega dungeon in the future so thank you @pocster for posting it and @Dudda for answering it! ? 1
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 15:37, Thorfun said: I'll have this very same question for my mega dungeon in the future so thank you @pocster for posting it and @Dudda for answering it! ? Expand One thing you should be aware of as I've been told by all suspended ceiling suppliers - it will look like a Swindon Office block ceiling ....
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) On 10/02/2022 at 15:37, Thorfun said: I'll have this very same question for my mega dungeon in the future so thank you @pocster for posting it and @Dudda for answering it! ? Expand What are your dungeons dimensions? - better not be bigger than mine otherwise I shall add an underground extension! Edited February 10, 2022 by pocster
Thorfun Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:02, pocster said: What are your dungeons dimensions? - better not be bigger than mine otherwise I shall add an underground extension! Expand errr....about 115m2
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:04, Thorfun said: errr....about 115m2 Expand FFS mine 98m2!!! BOLLOCKS! - going to measure it accurately later. I AM DUNGEON KING! 1
Thorfun Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:14, pocster said: FFS mine 98m2!!! BOLLOCKS! - going to measure it accurately later. I AM DUNGEON KING! Expand you are SMALL dungeon King. ? and remember, no matter what she says, size does matter. 1
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:15, Thorfun said: you are SMALL dungeon King. ? and remember, no matter what she says, size does matter. Expand (expletive deleted) THAT! - Measuring it now!
Mr Punter Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:01, pocster said: One thing you should be aware of as I've been told by all suspended ceiling suppliers - it will look like a Swindon Office block ceiling .... Expand Do it in metal frame, then plasterboard as normal. Just like a timber joisted ceiling but with fewer cracks.
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:18, pocster said: (expletive deleted) THAT! - Measuring it now! Expand HMMMM! 92m2 But that's allowing for finished wall to finished wall. Bet @Thorfun is cheating and using just floor area. I also have my dungeon courtyard - I should add that in really; which is 24m2 So total is 116m2 - funny how I win by 1m2 - my measuring though is rather "subjective" - anyway ... I WIN!
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:18, Mr Punter said: Do it in metal frame, then plasterboard as normal. Just like a timber joisted ceiling but with fewer cracks. Expand Can't have plasterboard ceiling. Too much of a PITA . Also I want access to everything everywhere - because of the eclectic layout..... ?
Thorfun Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:24, pocster said: HMMMM! 92m2 But that's allowing for finished wall to finished wall. Bet @Thorfun is cheating and using just floor area. I also have my dungeon courtyard - I should add that in really; which is 24m2 So total is 116m2 - funny how I win by 1m2 - my measuring though is rather "subjective" - anyway ... I WIN! Expand oh! we're INCLUDING the dungeon courtyard then are we? in that case, I need to add an extra 19m2 so I'm now up to 134m2 <doing the happy dance>
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:40, Thorfun said: oh! we're INCLUDING the dungeon courtyard then are we? in that case, I need to add an extra 19m2 so I'm now up to 134m2 <doing the happy dance> Expand Ffs ! Lets do it by volume . What’s your floor to ceiling height ?
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 No sleep for anyone tonight until I win . Knew I should of dug down another level
Thorfun Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:47, pocster said: Ffs ! Lets do it by volume . What’s your floor to ceiling height ? Expand just been down to measure.....3.075m that's from proposed FFL to underside of beams. the screed is being laid Monday so I've subtracted that thickness (50mm) and the LVT thickness (10mm) from the current figure of 3.135m. do I win some walk-on-glazing?
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:55, Thorfun said: just been down to measure.....3.075m that's from proposed FFL to underside of beams. the screed is being laid Monday so I've subtracted that thickness (50mm) and the LVT thickness (10mm) from the current figure of 3.135m. do I win some walk-on-glazing? Expand Ffs ! Rubbish game anyway ! You win Zoots heating system
Mr Punter Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:25, pocster said: Can't have plasterboard ceiling. Too much of a PITA . Also I want access to everything everywhere - because of the eclectic layout..... ? Expand Just put access panels where you need them. The suspended ceiling tiles look pony.
Thorfun Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:57, pocster said: Ffs ! Rubbish game anyway ! You win Zoots heating system Expand oooohhhh! is it good? 1
Mr Punter Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:57, pocster said: Ffs ! Rubbish game anyway ! You win Zoots heating system Expand You chose the wrong opponent for basement top trumps. 1 1
Temp Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) Our first floor is beam and block. The beam supplier provided some metal clips to hold battens to the underside of the beams. I think they were 22mm ish deep. So the void under beams was just the batten depth 22mm. Under the blocks the depth available for downlights was 50+22+12= 84 or 85mm ish. Back then that was marginal for fire and sound rated GU10 style downlight housings but shouldn't be an issue for LED these days. Edited February 10, 2022 by Temp 1
Pocster Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 16:58, Mr Punter said: Just put access panels where you need them. The suspended ceiling tiles look pony. Expand No , no , no . If you could see what I can see you’d understand. I could put an access panel every 1m I suppose .
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