Pocster Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, PeterW said: You’ve bought the integrated Heatmiser system - why..?? That wiring centre isn’t dumb so you’re going to have issues with the Fibaro I reckon - you just needed a really basic wiring centre as that has loads of built in functions that you will need to override. Have you installed it ..? Lol only just ordered it . Can cancel it . What should I order ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Heatmiser is expensive crap in my opinion and it goes out of date quickly and you can’t just upgrade bits of it when it breaks. Simple 8 channel UFH wiring centre off eBay is £45.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, PeterW said: Heatmiser is expensive crap in my opinion and it goes out of date quickly and you can’t just upgrade bits of it when it breaks. Simple 8 channel UFH wiring centre off eBay is £45.. like this ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Underfloor-heating-wiring-centre-with-LED-Water-Underfloor-Heating-8-Zone-230v/254004013962?hash=item3b23d1ab8a:g:I5cAAOSw2~Nb~sCr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UFH-8-Way-230v-Underfloor-Heating-Wiring-Centre-/164077546694?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 £46.50 shipped .. put the change to some decent clothes... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, PeterW said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UFH-8-Way-230v-Underfloor-Heating-Wiring-Centre-/164077546694?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 £46.50 shipped .. put the change to some decent clothes... ordered ! . I’ll get those actuators from wunda also . @ProDave needs to shut down his ebay shop ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 I’ve wired this up correctly I think ? Can turn my fibaro z wave relay on and off which in turn activated the actuator ( though I broke one of the clips !! ) Pump is wired off S1 ( L1 and N ) . But when I enable an actuator ( actuator flashing led as it calibrates ) the pump doesn’t come on . It has to doesn’t it ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Ok . I left it for 5 minutes- it’s now switched the pump on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Assuming this all works correctly what things should I take into account to control the ufh . All done via software . Do I take the external temperature and use that to adjust the ufh ? Perhaps use occupancy of a room to activate ufh ( though its slow to heat so not sure about this ) Any other suggestions to take into account ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 On my system the pump is delayed by 3 minutes to allow time for the actuators to fully open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Do you have an in slab temp sensor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Gav_P said: Do you have an in slab temp sensor? No I read up on this and thought it was a bit pointless . I’m just testing 1 zone at the moment , the bathroom . If has aeon multi sensors in it - so I can read the room temperature there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, pocster said: No I read up on this and thought it was a bit pointless . I’m just testing 1 zone at the moment , the bathroom . If has aeon multi sensors in it - so I can read the room temperature there . Fair enough.. you’ve far exceed my knowledge already, especially using the aeon thingy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gav_P said: Fair enough.. you’ve far exceed my knowledge already, especially using the aeon thingy! That doesn’t mean I’m right ! The aeon multi sensors are z wave devices . Can measure movement , light , humidity , temp , vibration and 1 other thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, pocster said: That doesn’t mean I’m right ! The aeon multi sensors are z wave devices . Can measure movement , light , humidity , temp , vibration and 1 other thing ? Vibration!?? Does that activate your camera system by any chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gav_P said: Vibration!?? Does that activate your camera system by any chance? I think it’s meant for detecting earthquakes - so perhaps you are right ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Flow and return pipes for this zone don’t seem particularly warm . I assume I should be able to feel the heat at this point ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Oh you thick (expletive deleted) ! Of course ALL the valves are open ! But I assume if I turn off the only installed actuator ( bathroom ) - power off will close the loop . So no heating in the bathroom ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 What I’m saying is with zero power applied the actuator pin is in ; so if installed zone would be heated . So powering it closes the valve . So I’m heating all of upstairs apart from the bathroom??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Have all the other zones got the caps screwed down (where the actuators will go)? If so this is opening all the loops isn’t it? Take the caps off and it will close the loops of I’m guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 You should be able to see if the other zones are circulating by looking at the flow regs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, pocster said: What I’m saying is with zero power applied the actuator pin is in ; so if installed zone would be heated . So powering it closes the valve . So I’m heating all of upstairs apart from the bathroom??? Strawberry flavoured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Onoff said: Strawberry flavoured? The packaging?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, pocster said: The packaging?? Oh it's the packaging, my mistake! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Onoff said: Oh it's the packaging, my mistake! Dirty dog ! Too early for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gav_P said: Have all the other zones got the caps screwed down (where the actuators will go)? If so this is opening all the loops isn’t it? Take the caps off and it will close the loops of I’m guessing. Not on site now . The caps are on but loose I.e pin is up - zones open So I guess I’m saying I need to power the zones for heating off ? - but shouldn’t the pump be off then ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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