Shah

Bathroom renovation

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Hello All,

I am looking to renovate main bathroom and toilet downstairs. The aim is to add a shower in both of them and make them wet rooms. We will no longer put a bath in. Wall hung toilet and washbasins for both and tiling for floors and walls. 

I have been looking into Grohe for the toilet and washbasin sets (wall hung) and not sure about all the other bits i.e. shower tray/tray former, showers, tiles (most of tiles I have looked are rating at R9 which are not good for shower floors; not sure what to do), glass screens etc. 

Any idea on how much does it cost in labour?

Thanks,

Shah.

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See this and links therefrom.

 

A set of articles including costs about my Conversion/Reno of shower room. It is flagged accessible but covers everything.

 

 

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If doing a wet room without any screens then don't underestimate the distance water will spray from the shower. (Especially with kids who don't clean up after themselves!)

 

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I haven't got a former, instead I laid the floor to falls. Tbh the fall area could have been 1 tile bigger. Current area is approx. 1400 x 1400. No real issue at the moment to squeegee the floor & kick the towel round the floor. When we get older though and can't bend/balance...who knows!

 

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@Ferdinand saviour!! Just what I needed. 

@Onoff There will be screen so hopefully less mess.

 

Any recommendation on the tray former (wedi, impey etc?). Any ideas on extraction fan as downstairs toilet shower won't have a window so don't want it to be steamed/damp after use?

wedi does this top ready to fit surface. Has anyone used it? 

https://www.justwedi.co.uk/fundo-top-ready-to-fit-surfaces/wedi-fundo-plano-top-central-anthracite-1200x900mm.html

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What I would say is to make the length of the screen at least 1m-1.1m if you enter sideways, and perhaps 1.7m if you enter at the end - both without a door.

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Upstairs shower will be enter at the end so was thinking of 1.4m for screen. Could increase that to 1.7m. Downstairs it will be 3 walls and screen at the entrance so will be closed totally. Any recommendation for where to buy these screens? Thanks a lot  

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1 minute ago, Shah said:

Upstairs shower will be enter at the end so was thinking of 1.4m for screen. Could increase that to 1.7m. Downstairs it will be 3 walls and screen at the entrance so will be closed totally. Any recommendation for where to buy these screens? Thanks a lot  

 

I was going off @Nickfromwales's numbers.

 

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And think carefully about the surface of your floor tiles.

 

I would argue matt not gloss, but think carefully before going to "textured" ie non-slip as they are significantly more painful to keep clean. The second bathroom I have done this year is matt, but I needed non-slip for my frail mum downstairs for the first one.

 

Get whole tile samples and put scrubbed in mud on them then work out how you will clean it.

 

Ferdinand

 

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2 minutes ago, Ferdinand said:

would argue matt not gloss, but think carefully before going to "textured" ie non-slip as they are significantly more painful to keep clean.

This has been painful to decide. I would certainly go with matt finish but finding a tile which is non-slip and easy to clean is proving very difficult. Hence I started looking at alternatives. if the shower tray top like wedi can be used for the shower area and a matt immediately on tiles where one could dry feet to keep the slipping hazard to minimum...? 

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Right. Read through your blog @Ferdinand very helpful information.

I have almost finalised on tiles, shower screens. 

I have been looking at the following but probably looking for help to find a cheaper solution:

I quite like the Grohe Fresh retrofit solution.

https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/grohe-solido-euro-arena-complete-wall-hung-suite-600mm-basin-cosmo-smart-tap?campaign=googlebase&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5-mwhqna5QIVF-DtCh3ZNwqIEAQYBCABEgJwM_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

As I need to get two sets so costs will add up quickly. Any other recommendations appreciated.

 

Also any pointers for getting a thermostatic shower? anything to look out for and what is better concealed or not concealed?

 

Thanks,

Shah.

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The tiles I used for the upstairs ... family ... bathroom were these - Canada Grey.

 

https://www.tiletown.co.uk/en/canada-grey-floor

 

They are a matt finish, which imo is a better balance between non-slip and easy-clean than the ones mentioned in my reno of the 'disabled friendly' bathroom.

 

Tiletown will send a free sample.

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Is the upstairs bathroom a wet room or does it have a shower tray like you have on the ground floor? if wet room then same tiles used where the shower will be?

Thanks. 

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1 hour ago, Shah said:

Is the upstairs bathroom a wet room or does it have a shower tray like you have on the ground floor? if wet room then same tiles used where the shower will be?

Thanks. 

 

Upstairs is also a shower tray, but set at 20mm proud of the floor.

 

The shower wall tiles were already there, and previously the shower screen went right across the alcove; I turned the end panel through 90 degrees to make room for a bath.

 

Here is a video. Really needs the sound muting.

 

 

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Great, thanks Ferdinand. Any help on selecting the thermostatic shower?

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Thanks @Onoff So far so good.

Got a quote back from a builder and £2500 per bathroom. This include stripping the old bathroom out, re-plastering, tiling to the wall and floor tiling with wet room (waterproofing etc), installing shower, wall-hung toilet and basin. Does that sound reasonable (London area).

Thanks,

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