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Traditional v Timber Frame Cost

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I was reading an article that stated that the cost difference was now very little 

Due to a massive increase in bricklaying costs 

Then I thought Will the TF companies adjust there prices based on this 

I think this is probably right. Just sent drawings off for some trusses - firm asked if I wanted a TF quote.

If their prices haven't gone up as much and they're still making the same margin I think they will enjoy being able to pinch a bit of market share rather than trying to steal a few extra percent on each job.

 

I remember being quoted 2500 years ago for a bungalow tf thinking it was dear. Blocks were probably 50p then 2010 ish? Laid rates certainly weren't 15 a metre. The TF looked a lot dearer

1 hour ago, Oz07 said:

I remember being quoted 2500 years ago for a bungalow tf …

 

Were they still doing quotes for pyramids then?

2 hours ago, nod said:

I was reading an article that stated that the cost difference was now very little 

Due to a massive increase in bricklaying costs 

Then I thought Will the TF companies adjust there prices based on this 

 

Have you got a copy of the article?

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8 hours ago, Moonshine said:

 

Have you got a copy of the article?

No 

It was online 

3 hours ago, nod said:

It was online 

 

No link? i would be interested in a read of it.

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I will see if I can find it 

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Problem is the other trades rates have gone up also 

Difference with the brickies is the forms are often guaranteeing a couple of hundred a day rain or shine

Not much has been built out in the Lake District lately 

Well just had a quote back for the place I'm currently on with. Surprised with how it came out.

Once you strip the roof trusses and labour out of it (needed whichever method) I get t/f to be around double the price on this job!

They want 1500 to design it! Paid an architect less than that for b.regs drawings.

1 minute ago, Oz07 said:

Well just had a quote back for the place I'm currently on with. Surprised with how it came out.

Once you strip the roof trusses and labour out of it (needed whichever method) I get t/f to be around double the price on this job!

They want 1500 to design it! Paid an architect less than that for b.regs drawings.

 

Surely the TF labour is much less than the b&b labour?

 

Our frame was up and watertight in 3 weeks, and that was nearly 300m2 above ground plus all internal stud walls, floor decks, roof felted & battened.

 

Windows  were ordered off plan and arrived on site as the roof was being finished and went in over two days. Same for Velux.

 

For me, that's the main advantage of TF - compresses the on site schedule but admittedly at an increased material cost.

 

I just used the TF structural drawings for B regs - didn't see the point of paying twice.

Did the tf drawings do all your below ground details and other things needed for building regs then?

 

The whole TF package is around 11500 supply erect and design

 

Trusses are around 1500 I'm allowing 2k to fit. Design is 1500. This leaves 6500.

 

Blockwork (laid), sand, cement, lintels, ties etc come to 3600

 

insulation excluded in both

1 hour ago, Oz07 said:

Blockwork (laid), sand, cement, lintels, ties etc come to 3600

 

insulation excluded in both

 What size of the building is this quote for?

 

Looking at a per m2 rate and using roughly 10 blocks per m2 per leaf, this is - very roughly - 110 blocks per 1m length of 5.5m tall wall of a two storey house. I think I read here it costs £1 to lay the block and the block itself is at least the same. Which means £220 per linear meter of the wall. 

Will be happy to have the calculations corrected!

It's around 100m2 of wall. Blocks 9.70 labour 15 ish. 

Without getting too specific with the numbers the tf quote is for the same property

Btw I'm only talking internal leaf for obvious reasons 

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