Moira Niedzwiecka Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 A condition of my planning permission is to install inward opening electric gates 5m back from the public highway. I am on a single track lane & need to have a cars length to pull off the road in front of the gates. My access is also slightly sloping uphill. Has anyone any knowledge of electric gate mechanisms? Prices from electric gate companies are prohibitive for me at the moment. I have seen mechanisms for sale on ebay that could be affordable but just a bit unsure if any good. The gates & gateposts will be timber. Any suggestions appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I don't know if you've looked, but there are some simple, and ingenious, hinge arrangements that allow ordinary gates to swing up a sloping drive, like this rising gate hinge: It would be pretty easy to fix an electric opener to such a gate, such as these ones, for example: https://www.easygates.co.uk/electric-gates/automaticgates.asp. Our local farm supplies place stocks rising hinge sets just like the one used in that video. My guess is that they are probably a stock item, as needing a gate to open uphill seems to be a fairly common requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 18 hours ago, Moira Niedzwiecka said: A condition of my planning permission is to install inward opening electric gates 5m back from the public highway. I am on a single track lane & need to have a cars length to pull off the road in front of the gates. My access is also slightly sloping uphill. Has anyone any knowledge of electric gate mechanisms? Prices from electric gate companies are prohibitive for me at the moment. I have seen mechanisms for sale on ebay that could be affordable but just a bit unsure if any good. The gates & gateposts will be timber. Any suggestions appreciated. I was quoted 3500 plus vat to install two CAM motors and wiring Plus the gates on top I asked an electrician friend for help He declined as it wasn’t something he new about I rang Gates Gates who supplied me the same motors and box of tricks and told me to give them a call when wiring Wiring them is all plug and play Each terminal is numbered I messed up on wiring the sensor eyes Two wires wrong way round The motors came to £600 An afternoon to bury and align the boxes A full day installing the gates Someone with an electrical background would find them a doddle For gate made and installed we had been quoted £7000 With what I paid a local iron works and buying Idigbo to board them with All In has cost 2400 A massive difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 We had our two pairs of gates (drive is in and out) professionally made & installed and it was not cheap but they did a great job and there was a lot of work in it, so hat off to @nod doing it solo. The motors, controllers & remotes are CAME. Agree that the electrical side of things looks straight forward - we also have an induction loop for exit and an intercom for visitors. Most of the work was trenching in cable runs and setting out and fixing the steels that the gates hang off plus seating the control units in the ground. We had block pillars built and rendered by others and the gates were measured, made and hung after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: We had our two pairs of gates (drive is in and out) professionally made & installed and it was not cheap but they did a great job and there was a lot of work in it, so hat off to @nod doing it solo. The motors, controllers & remotes are CAME. Agree that the electrical side of things looks straight forward - we also have an induction loop for exit and an intercom for visitors. Most of the work was trenching in cable runs and setting out and fixing the steels that the gates hang off plus seating the control units in the ground. We had block pillars built and rendered by others and the gates were measured, made and hung after that. Yes already built and rendered the pillars I expected them to be expensive We thought about £3500 ish But where amazed at double that Our experience was most of the gate foundry’s didn’t want to get involved with the automated side Leaving one company to corner the market Came are a great product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 The thing with electric gates is safety so any installer will need good insurance as they can be extremely dangerous things if not set up correctly. A professional installer will be charging for that, plus they are the sort of thing that can be mishandled resulting in a fairly high number of customer call outs during the warranty period, again something an installer needs to factor into their quote. There have been a number of deaths caused by them, of children in particular. Installers or those performing maintenance have been prosecuted as a result. https://reynoldstraining.com/health-and-safety-articles/firms-prosecuted-after-child-crushed-to-death-by-electric-gate/ Plus an example of where the home owner was felt to be the negligent party as the gates had not been maintained adequately. https://www.electric-gates.com/2017/01/09/electric-gates-law/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, newhome said: The thing with electric gates is safety so any installer will need good insurance as they can be extremely dangerous things if not set up correctly. A professional installer will be charging for that, plus they are the sort of thing that can be mishandled resulting in a fairly high number of customer call outs during the warranty period, again something an installer needs to factor into their quote. There have been a number of deaths caused by them, of children in particular. Installers or those performing maintenance have been prosecuted as a result. https://reynoldstraining.com/health-and-safety-articles/firms-prosecuted-after-child-crushed-to-death-by-electric-gate/ Plus an example of where the home owner was felt to be the negligent party as the gates had not been maintained adequately. https://www.electric-gates.com/2017/01/09/electric-gates-law/ Totally agree there when say I had a day fitting For about a month I fine tuned Though I can’t Fault Came Slightest obstacle they stop and open again The garage door I fitted was a similar setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 OP just as an aside if you check your planning a lot of the time it will be worded such that- IF gates are installed. Do you actually want the gates? Not seen many conditions insisting on gates. It's more to do with the setback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moira Niedzwiecka Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 Thanks for the info chaps. I will look into this. @Oz07 I do want gates for security really as the location is a bit vulnerable & I am on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Gates are good for privacy and will deter the opportunist who may wander in but pretty useless against the determined thief. Our gate reset code is still the default - i pointed this out to the installer and he agreed this was poor security but then pointed out that it would be easy to pop out the panel with a screwdriver and short the connections to open the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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