Ben100 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Hi all, I have several steel columns in my new extension which are taking most of the structural load. The SE has given me the line and point loads, so I now need to calculate the size and depth of the 'pad footings' they sit on. I've looked around, but can't find this information anywhere. Can anyone suggest a method? Cheers, Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 The SE should do it based on the ground conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben100 Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, PeterW said: The SE should do it based on the ground conditions. He's too far away, so I'd need to get a local SE to design then if I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) . Edited September 26, 2019 by the_r_sole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Ideally you need to know the load bearing capability of the ground (in Newtons per square meter) and the load (in Newtons). Then it should be easy to divide one by the other to give the required area (in square metres). The issue is what safety factor should be included as well as other precautions (particularly for soft ground or clay). Table 10 in Approved Documents A give some guidance on the width of strip foundations required for different soil types and load. The issues and maths are similar. I'm not an SE though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben100 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Temp said: Ideally you need to know the load bearing capability of the ground (in Newtons per square meter) and the load (in Newtons). Then it should be easy to divide one by the other to give the required area (in square metres). The issue is what safety factor should be included as well as other precautions (particularly for soft ground or clay). Table 10 in Approved Documents A give some guidance on the width of strip foundations required for different soil types and load. The issues and maths are similar. I'm not an SE though. This sounds simple enough as the ground is hard compressed sand/stone and I have all the point loads from the SE, which have the safety calculations built in. I’m more concerned about the required thickness of the pads as I’m not clear on how to calculate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA3222 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Ben100 said: This sounds simple enough as the ground is hard compressed sand/stone and I have all the point loads from the SE, which have the safety calculations built in. I’m more concerned about the required thickness of the pads as I’m not clear on how to calculate this. I believe it is the actual ground bearing capacity of the sand/stone that is required. You have the point loads imposed on the sand/stone - the load that the sand/stone can actually bear will then determine the size of the padstone required? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Section 2E of Approved Doc A also has guidance on the minimum depth (eg how deep the bottom of the foundation should be) in section 2E4 and the thickness in 2E2. In practice you dig down to the depth recommended in 2E4 and fill it up with concrete to a depth that is a convenient multiple of brick or block courses below the required DPC/FFL level (Checking that the resulting thickness is greater than needed to meet 2E2). That way you don't need to cut blocks to make thinner courses. Some people use more concrete and fewer courses of blocks than needed to meet 2E2. This is sometimes called fully filled foundations but that doesn't mean they are always filled right to the very top just close. It can make sense especially if building in winter/wet weather as your trenches are less likely to fill with water or collapse. You still want to be a convenient multiple below DPC. I think the NHBC also require there to be a cavitiy 225 mm deep below DPC. So that may also limit how high you fill your trench. Edited September 7, 2019 by Temp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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