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  1. I've had several conversations with folks at various stages of planning applications that are geared towards para 79/80 houses and decided to document our journey so far: Firstly we consulted a local architect who has worked on several Class Q developments. They walked the site with us and mentioned that it's highly unlikely we could gain approval due to being classed as "open countryside", however we could pursue a specific "country house" clause that they didn't feel best equipped to pursue. March 2020: Grand Designs: we watched most episodes, making a list of houses that we liked the look off and the architects that were responsible for the designs. This gave us a long list to begin researching. It was here that terms such as the "country house clause", PPS7, Paragraph 55 and Paragraph 79 were mentioned. We started researching para 79e (as it was at the time) housing requirements. There didn't seem to be a ton of information around the process however Studiobark conducted an incredible study focused on previous applications, including creating an interactive map - I highly recommend reading this should you be looking to go down this route. Richard Hawkes has a Youtube channel which was also very helpful in providing additional information and context around the criteria; I'd highly recommend the two video's focused on the Braintree case to provide context on the "isolation" principle that needs to be met. A few more hand links below: - https://www.architecture.com/knowledge-and-resources/knowledge-landing-page/using-paragraph-79-to-design-innovative-country-houses - https://www.countrylife.co.uk/property/the-exceptional-houses-being-built-in-idyllic-countryside-spots-thanks-to-the-foresight-of-paragraph-79-215618 - https://urbanistarchitecture.co.uk/paragraph-79-house/ - https://www.hawkesarchitecture.co.uk/para-79/ - https://www.hughesplanning.co.uk/para-55-houses-explained After reviewing a large number of both successful and unsuccessful applications the Pareto principle certainly seems to be present - a large number of approvals come from a small number of architects/firms (I'm unsure on the rules with regards to promotion (I have no stake in any of the firms), however I'd be happy to share a list of the firms should admin be happy with this). June: 2020 An initial site visit is the first stage each firm recommended where they would be identifying various strategic opportunities & constraints being presented by the site and its context. This would be followed by a detailed research exercise which would involve a comprehensive analysis of local and national policy as well as looking into planning history within the local area. This stage is crucial as without enough elements to play with any future planning application would likely be unsuccessful. The fee's for this stage varied a lot (several hundred to several thousand)! I'll add another couple of posts later today/tomorrow focusing on: - Site visit to pre-app - Pre-app to Design Review Panel - Design Review Panel feedback and next steps Hopefully this will be useful to some.
  2. Best of luck @Smallholder We had our first Design Review Panel last month, we've got a bit more work to do before finally submitting proper. Sounds like you're a bit ahead of us. Fingers crossed that they fully endorse the design
  3. I'm in a similar position to you with regards to seeking potential funding. My understanding regarding Ecology is that they based their lending purely on affordability (you're monthly salary - committed expenditure, using their calculator) vs other lenders who take into account salary minus their own modelling of what expenditure usually is (generic). Once you get to the application stage I should imagine they will all converge to align closer with the Ecology number. Out of interest, what type of salary multipliers do you seem to be getting? Self-build mortgages seem to be a minefield!
  4. I wish you the best of luck with this Makkers82. We're going down the same route as you and I cannot overstate the importance of having someone with a solid understanding of what it is going to entail in order to get this through. I remembered watching a couple of Hawkes Architecture videos when I was looking into mine, this one looks specifically at the Braintree case. This one is a follow up and looks like it might have some similarities to yours (potential infill and maybe the para 131 route (it might have moved paragraph now with the change) could be the way forward). This might be the issue. Have you looked at the planning districts five year housing plan? It might be that this section of land (or surrounding) is a potential village expansion site and therefore whilst currently not part of the boundaries now it will be in several years. We had the potential of a new road that may/may not be build in the next 10 - 20 years (it's been talked about since 1980!) to contend with for our pre-app. I'd second the planning consultant however if you're working with an architect that has a strong history of delivering these types of builds then they should have a good steer on the potential or not of "the site". Ours walked the land with us and told us not to even bother with a couple of sites as they have no chance (even though isolated). We've just had our first design review panel and the potential of the site (views (in and out), opportunity for bio-diversity gains, etc) cannot be understated. Feel free to PM is you need anymore information or have any questions.
  5. Could you try a bridging loan? You would have >50% equity (50% of the building cost + land value) so that shouldn't be an issue. You could then repay the loan in full once you secure a residential mortgage.
  6. Update: We've had our Design Review Panel this week and things are still progressing. It was a very useful experience and it was great to have several pairs of completely objective eyes looking at what we have from an ecological, town planning, landscaping and architectural perspective. There were a lot of praise about the site and the characteristics that we can work with and a fair bit of work for us to do in terms of the potential concept. When we have something a bit more concrete down I will share some of the plans.
  7. Alfie

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    100% look to remortgage the ~£75/80k needed from the BTL.
  8. Para 55/79/80. I agree though, it looks as if "exceptional design" doesn't have to mean "nice to look at".
  9. Likely some answers to some of the questions ion the build n the updates here.
  10. Pretty sure we paid £680 for ours in Northamptonshire.
  11. Update: The pre-app has come back with no major roadblocks (although it contained very little detail on it) which is a start. We're pushing ahead with a Design Review Panel towards the end of September. Fingers crossed they are supportive! Note: the pre-app took less than two weeks for a fairly detailed reply.
  12. This sounds impressive! Looking forward to following the progress.
  13. @Olf - Thanks for the idea, I've passed this on and it's something he will look into. @ToughButterCup - I too am surprised the planning was that short. Agree on the building work, although he has quite a few connections that he can call upon. It's still a "how long is a piece of string" question though.
  14. Unfortunately not as several have already been converted and the remainder are still in use. We're working with an architect who has a solid track record with these types of schemes (paragraph 79/55/PPS7) who feels a unique design specific to the area alongside the narrative of why we would want to be there (closer to family, eventually raising kids in this type of environment) should see us have a chance. From some of the comments I'd assume several posters have been through this process prior. Should the pre-app come back positive I'll update with some more details.