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ordered ! . I’ll get those actuators from wunda also . @ProDave needs to shut down his ebay shop ????

like this ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Underfloor-heating-wiring-centre-with-LED-Water-Underfloor-Heating-8-Zone-230v/254004013962?hash=item3b23d1ab8a:g:I5cAAOSw2~Nb~sCr

Lol only just ordered it . Can cancel it . What should I order ??

@PeterW https://www.wundatrade.co.uk/shop/home/quick-shop/wundatherm-quick-shop/controls-quickshop/actuator-auto-balancing/# Be ok with my wiring centre ?? ( I can cancel that if need be )

Ok - any particular recommendations? Appreciate they open / close quicker but as my slab will take hours to adjust to any change what other advantages do they have ??

But @ProDave said these. ?? Also with motorised how do I open and close ? I assume they don’t auto close on loss of power ( some spring solenoid type thing ) .

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACTUATOR-FOR-UNDERFLOOR-HEATING-MANIFOLD-230V-2W/322000676572?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200520130048%26meid%3D4e57802ebc61451ca437e8e9536f7f8e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D322000682302%26itm%3D322000676572%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 These?

Yes. So my wireless sensor somewhere reports the temperature to HA. Simple code for HA to signal appropriate fibaro to activate actuator via wiring centre ( which in turn operates the pump ). I suppose in theory I don't really need the wiring centre - I could manage the pump on/off simply based actuators active or not. But I think the wiring centre makes it neater. Re-read your original response @Temp and yes Fibaro's powered off wiring centre. Also, I see 4 core + earth . As 1 fibaro will need L,N,E,S1,S2

There is no room stat connected ; it's a wireless device. So the HA would simply ( wirelessly ) trigger the Fibaro. My potentially flawed logic was the fibaro acts as the room stat i.e. just switches the actuator on/off via the writing centre. For the moment I just want to wirelessly control the fibaro which intern activates the actuator. Actually adjusting to temperature/usage of the room etc. I'll add later.

Or indeed anyway website. Most seem to have a plastic thread. Some metal ones here https://underfloorparts.co.uk/product/watts-26lc-230v-2-wire-underfloor-heating-electrothermic-thermal-actuator/#prettyPhoto

@ProDave from that website which 240v actuators would you recommend instead ( didn't realise they were plastic and yes I prefer real metal ). Let me know and I'll try and get the order changed. Cheers

Thanks Those actuators were recommended by the UHF/ASHP installer - whom inturn has been recommended on here. I'll go with them and see how good/crap they are. Nobody but me understands it anyway! ?. I didn't really want a room stat per room on the wall. What I can do easily is have a room stat on iphone/ipad etc.- so it's part of the HA and accessible ( but yes, when it goes wrong/fails no-one can fix it apart from me ). Indeed SWMBO has already said "If you die how will I control the in room music?" ; I think if I die opening the front door and turning the heating on will be bigger issues ?

I'm not quite sure what I'm asking either! ? ( I think it's called 'post and see if someone thinks it's wrong' ) Just checking I've got the basics correct. Currently no room stats. Will have z wave aeotec sensors in each room which inturn via the HA server would operate the appropriate fibaro relay switch.

Perhaps some kind of Wago junction box???

Preparing to wire up and automate my wet UFH I've purchased some actuators to sit on the manifold https://heatmisershop.co.uk/underfloor-heating-actuator-heatmiser-ta230/ A wiring centre https://heatmisershop.co.uk/heatmiser-uh8-8-zone-230v-underfloor-heating-wiring-centre/ Apparently it's easier to use this as it will turn on/off the ufh pump based on whether actuators are open or not i.e. one less thing for me to mess up Then to control each actuator https://www.vesternet.com/products/z-wave-fibaro-double-switch-2-gen5?utm_campaign=order-confirmation-email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=product&utm_term=link&utm_source=OrderlyEmails All 230v stuff. So! The wiring to the wire centre and pump seems simple enough, as does to the actuators. The fibaro double relay confuses me though on how this is wired to the wiring centre It's 1 fibaro for 2 zones as it's a double relay N to neutral obviously L to live Both the above on fibaro and wiring centre zone input Q1 to SL 1 for zone 1 Q2 to SL 2 for zone 2 That in essence it? Assuming that's correct I presume I should take 1 mains input to some kind of multi connector so that each fibaro comes off that; any suggestions what is best to use for that? Just a standard terminal block? Any advice or fear welcome!

I ain’t no amateur! ??

Fixed it obviously!

Done ; with zero wall tiles spare You lot are all locked down so enjoy my photo entitled “Freedom”

Nah ! She’s not leaking

we have potable water ...

Patrick Swayze is a knob and his walk on glazing leaks

No idea . SWMBO is forcing me to watch dirty dancing at the moment ? Before mr knob arrives I shall flood the basement anyway .......

Oi ! PM me ! . I’ve got everything you need girls , drugs , walk on glazing .......

They are (expletive deleted) at the best of time . But as you lot bitch about the mess I’m sure I’ll be ok

They can visit that’s not a problem. Annoying the council ( and recording the conversation) is a prerequisite! . As they tend to lie !!! .