Hi, I'm new here, hoping this is the start of some good advice. We have a two bed detached bungalow and want to completely remodel and extend this up and out and also remove the old falling down garage and build a double garage. We have had four people round, and have narrowed down our shortlist to two. Can anyone advise on what they think of fees etc and if their is any other questions we should be going back and asking.
Option 1:
A RICS Chartered Building Surveyor specialising in Planning, Architectural Design and Party Wall Matters regulated by the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. We really liked this person in terms of his knowledge although our initial view was he would work with our ideas but wouldn't necessarily 'think outside of the box' and be as creative as some others though we would be confident what he would design would work well for the property structurally, but the design part was lacking.
His fees are £1600 for obtaining planning documents and £850 for obtaining building regulation plan approval with the assumption that new foundations will be traditional concrete strips and the roof will be formed with truss rafters (total £2450).
Specifically this includes (and I'm copying and pasting):
- Preparing a draft design based on our discussions. As we work through the design I will amend it to suit your needs. Once we have a scheme you are happy with I will proceed with the planning application.
- Any new septic tank will require porosity tests on the ground, you can undertake these the tests as they are straightforward. Once I have the test results I will calculate the amount of land drainage required.
- For the first-floor extension the existing foundations will need checking, I can advise if a test hole is dug.
- Finally, an ecology survey may be required and this will need to undertaken by a specialist. My advice, submit the application and see if they come back asking for a survey.
Planning:- I shall submit the planning application on your behalf, the council’s planning application fee will be £206.
The council are allowed 8 weeks to make their decision.
Building Regulation:- These approvals are required and an application needs submitting prior to the commencement of the on-sitebuilding works. You can either use the council or an approved inspector to act as the building control checking body; I will explain the options when we get to that stage. The council’s fees for this are approximately £250 + VAT when submitting the application and £500 + VAT when the works commence on site, I will confirm these fees after the planning application has been determined.
Second Option:
Well two for the price of one, male and female team. He is CIAT registered and worked for a large local firm for a long time before setting up on own. Female did 5 out of 7 years RIBA before the practice owner died (family firm), seen all certificates etc. Both seemed really seemed keen, really creative and gave us ideas we hadn't thought of and are keen to work on it as their centrepiece for their portfolio (we would be their 100 job since setting up, have seen examples of their work too).
The details of pricing we have been given are as follows:
Stage 1 – Survey existing dwelling and garage and carry out a full measured survey of the existing floor plans/elevations and insert into
drawing system ready for submission with the application.
Garage
Extension
*£70.00
*£420.00
Stage 2 – Design and Planning Submission for extension. Prepare design drafts for consultation with the client; amend accordingly.
Garage
Extension
*£140.00
*£980.00
Stage 2a – Planning Conditions
In the event that the Council impose any conditions these will be answered at an hourly rate. *£35/hr
Stage 3 – Building Regulations
Prepare detailed construction drawings at 1:50 and 1:20 scales; prepare supporting documents and submit all to Building Control. Answer any conditions. Liaising with Structural Engineer, sound specialist, energy assessor and Building Control Officer.
Garage
Extension
*£245.00
*£980.00
Total for garage
Total for extension
*£455.00
*£2,380.00
Total £2835
(Extra costs then go on to cite local authority fees etc as per first quote and surveys we may need).
My concern is neither are on ARB, and the two RIBA architects we had were very expensive and left us a little underwhelmed, one wanting to spend the majority of our £150k budget on energy saving and quotes between £8-£15k.
There is only around £400 difference but I'm tempted with our second option. Both firmss the second couple previously worked for are RIBA. Both are local.
Thanks