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I don't know the cost differential between Lng carriers and onshore storage. Potentially a bit more resilient through geographic distribution though the offload facility is still a single point of failure. On the plus side it would be very quick to ramp up capacity as we already have the infrastructure in place. All we need to do is buy and crew (or even lease) some carriers and that's it. I don't know how many hours /days of supply a single tanker provides

Would the same logic apply to Lng carriers?

The only way I can see the gas plan working would be if the "company" (nationalised) owned the gas fields, storage, transport and power plants - basically farm to for for electricity. Not impossible but there are probably any number of pitfalls. As for coal, we wpiod need to open mines and I don't think we have the expertise. I did wonder if we use waste incinerator plants as our "dark and still weeks" backup. Basically I'm not sure how much plastic actually gets recycled but we do need virgin plastic for alot of things eg medical and food packaging. So why not store the shredded waste for burning when we need it. Yes it would release carbon but the amounts would be much smaller and we wouldnhabe less plastic waste in the enviroment.

With some waht impeccable timing the UK climate change committee has released a report that (amongst other things) looks at the costs of "Net zero" vs the costs of staying as we are today. https://www.theccc.org.uk/publication/supplementary-analysis-of-the-seventh-carbon-budget/ The TLDR is that the cost of NZ is about £4bn a year or £100bn to 2050. The cost of a single oil crisis (eg the 2022 one) is £40bn to treasury (fuel bill support) and an estimated similar amount to households and businesses. All in all they conclude the cost of NZ is about equal to a single oil crisis and we are on our second this decade. Again this is an argument for NZ that makes no reference to climate change.

I'm not sure how it goes back down for a while unless Iran announces it's surrender (or that it will not hinder ships transiting the strait). It's going to be very hard for the US can defend the 100+ ships a day moving through. Even if the Americans packed up and went home tomorrow, what is the incentive for Iran to reopen the strait? Maybe they'd get a taste for being the troll under a vital bridge and start charging a toll - after all, what will the America's be able to do? Bomb them?

Texas petrol prices rose by about 10p a liter or 20% due to the supply shock caused by the recent stupidity. A state that produces over 5m barrels a day but consumes less than 3m in total (all fossil energy Inc coal) in c country that is the world's largest exporter of oil and gas... is still not insulated from a war on the other side of the planet interrupting oil supplies. So what chance does the UK have even if it could somehow increace oil production? Do you know what hasn't changed? The cost of producing a Mwh of electricity from wind and solar.

Either/or If you piped a bypass on both the flow and return ports then you could set the system to be a buffer, flow side volumiser, return side volumiser or entirely absent with just a few valve changes... 😁

Depending on the exact buffer layout and design, it should be easy to bypass the flow side (the flow from the heatpump and flow to the heating) with 2 T and 2 lever valves. This would leave you with a volumiser on the return. Leave the pump inline but disconnected electrically If the Heatpump pump is man enough great. If not you can run the second pump in series to boost the pressure. If it's all a disaster you can go back to current set up by switching the 2 valves.

Has anyone gone through the process of upping their export limit? I have an 8kw inverter limited to 3.68kw. I suspect my G99 was done (by the installer) on the fast track, hence my 3.68kw limit. I want to reapply to get it upped as they have done some work on my local network (and to compensate for the lower export rates). I've been going round in circles as everything on the website (national grid) is either the g98/G99 fast track - which assumes you are notifying of a sub 3.68kw system or the G99 full route which assumes the system isn't yet up. There doesn't seem to be a button or form for "here is my existing permission for this system, can I up the limits please" Anyone got any pointers?

Mine is based on the decidedly old school economy 7 tariff that's been around forever and will prob still be around for some time to come given the number of people on all electric heating with no heatpump eg all electric flats. My batteries were sized to cover 90% of my days. As the export rate falls I'll have to get smarter about only filling the battery as much as I need but for now (this winter) fill up at night on 14p electric seems to be the best strategy.

Useful. What is your heating system? Storage heaters? Direct electric panels? Heatpump? I'm currently using my batteries (15kwh) to store E7 electricity and that runs my (gas heated) house pretty much all day on low cost elec - the exception is days when we do alot of washing and there is not much sun, then we end up using a few hours at peak rate. Overall using 95% cheap rate elec. Am on standard octopus outgoing which was more or less thr same as import (14p cheap rate import, 15p all day export). Unfortunately the export will drop to 12p, but it's not a big deal. You may be able to get more use from your batteries by switching tariffs and tactics.

I'll try and dig out my wiring diagram but here's the box Incoming tails from grid come in, the SPD and it's breaker are connected there. The love and neutral the head via the SolaX RCD and the live via the MCB out to the solax. They also go into the "grid" input of each changeover switch. The output of each changeover switch then goes to each CU. The eps love and neutral come back from the unit and connect to tge other input of the changeover switch (the live via the eps breaker) Currently CU2 is connected to the grid, the inverter can power it but it will go down in the event of a power cut. CU1 is fed via the EPS and stays up in the event of a power cut. (not shown are some Henley blocks below to split the connections)

It's the edge case really - kettle, toaster, microwave (not uncommon at certain times) get us over 6kw with house baseload. Chuck in a couple of hob rings and a HP (it'd a bug house so would be a fairly hefty one) and we could exceed 8kw. That said, the point of the changeover box is we can easily run everything off the eps if we find exceeding 8kw isn't an issue. As it happens we currently have a fault which was tripping out the Rcbo to the inverter. It effectively gives us a mini power cut. Not a problem as we run on battery backup, but in the current weather we'll eventually run out of battery and then have an actual power cut. So I just flicked the changeover to grid mode and now it"s fine, although we don't have automatic changeover if there was a real power cut. I did look at givnergy and a couple of other makes that use a seperate changeover box. For various reasons like lead time, cost, local installers etc I ended up going with a Solax DC coupled system and they use the EPS model, which is basically an integrated changeover system. All the mucking about with two consumer units etc (thr house already had 2 consumer units so it wasnt any extra work) was just me hedging my bets abouy future loads. It didn't cost much, IIRC the pair of changeover switches were about £75 and the bigger box to house them was £50 more or so. It did make installation a little easier as it provided a convenient junction box for thr various meter tails.

My solution was a bit complicated. My solax has a "eps" output that stays live in the event of grid failure whilst the grid feed is disconnected (all internal) As it's an 8kw inverter it will be fine for most loads except if we have a HP or induction hob. So I have 2 consumer units. One for lighting, sockets etc and the other for heavy loads like the induction hob and (potential) HP. The "heavy" consumer unit is fed from the grid so will go down in the event of a power cut. The light consumer unit is fed from thr "eps" that stays up. So in the event of a power cut the induction hob and HP will go down but everything else stays up. The final bit is both consumer units are fed via manual changeover switches. This means I can choose to feed both, one or none from the eps (or grid). If the power cut loops like a long one I can choose to connect the heavy consumer to the eps feed and just be careful.with simultaneous loading. Alternatively, if there is some issue with the inverter unit I can isolate it from the grid and run my house as normal whilst it's fixed.

Inevitable, but a bit annoying as thr current (15p outgoing) rate almost exactly matches the E7 rate (13.8p) effectively making charging and exporting the same which makes organising charging times easy. I just charged at night and exported in the day. I'll probaly stay on outgoing but go back to fixed rate.

I'm pretty sure uk regs say double pole breaker. I think the issue is if the cable is severed then the neutral can become line and someone outside working could get a shock between the neutral and local earth. Your electrican should know all this and sort it out The single pole seems to the Australian regs.

With that level of heat retention your best bet is to maintain the slab at a fairly constant temp, prob 20C or thereabouts. Basically as it is. You probably could try take advantage if cheaper overnight electricity to charge the slab up. Your cop will suffer a little bit but your flow temps will still be pretty low so it won't matter.

Fracking has been mentioned a few times in this and other threads. Aside from the arguments around there simply not being enough gas left in UK rocks to economically frack, I thought it would be useful to see what fracking actual looks like. Here is a Google maps image of the area around the town of Wickett, Texas. The two itself is the slightly grey patch under the word "Wickett". Those regular white dots in a grid pattern.... They're the fracking wells, both active and abandoned. As you can see, they extend for miles. In fact if you zoom out you can just see it continues. The area.covered in just this one field is hundreds of square miles, it's the size of several English counties. You don't have to be a rabid environmentalist to see this would not be possible in the UK even if there was the gas down there in the first place.

Some interesting diagrams. First from UK gov https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6887aa04be2291b14d11b01d/Energy_Flow_Chart_TWh_2024.pdf And Lawrence Livermore labs. Some notes - the UK gov is 2024, LLL is 2017. The LLL diagram use Peta Joules whilst UK uses TWh Conversion is 1,000 Pj is 278Twh The reason I included the LLL diagram is that it shows wasted energy (heat) And the crucial bit is the useful energy for the UK is around 2,800Pj or 775Twh. A lot of people concentrate on the left side of the diagram, primary energy which is somewhere around the 2,000Twh of fossil fuels at the moment (the diagrams don't match up exactly so that is a round number) That is around 20x our current renewables - so people rightly say "hang on a minute, we have to build another 20x wind turbines, solar parks etc.? That seems alot....." But renewables don't have as much inefficency so we should be looking at the 7-800Twh useful work. For example transport uses ~650Twh of delivered energy (primarily petrol/diesel) but only around 140Twh is actually used - the rest is heat. So if we could double our current renewables (+100Twh) we could replace about 2/3 of the petrol and diesel we use. Domestic heating uses around 275Twh useful. If we used heatpumps with an achievable 2.75 SCoP we could replace the vast majority of domestic heating with another 100Twh of renewables. So we could replace 2/3 of our petro/diesel and almost all of our gas heating by 3x our current capacity - not impossible.

Absolutely, but in that scenario your maximum earning is saving your entire electricity consumption. Some people bank on making even more by exporting lots to the grid. Currently this works But if you are investing assuming you can export lots to earn even more you could be left flat footed. Ultimately about grid scale battery storage to reduce the need for more transmission capacity. Say Scotland. At certain times there is way more local power than they can use or export to the south because the transmission lines are at capacity If Scotland could store that excess and then release it when the wind isn't blowing, either to power themselves *or* to continue to export at the maximum the existing lines can take, there would be less pressure on upgrading the line. This could be achieved with battery farms, but it has been pointed out 50kw+ car battery could output 2kw for 24hrs. 5,000 cars could provide 10MW for 24hrs Kia UK sold 7,000 EVs in one quarter. Potentially 40MW of "generation" (or absorption) availible every quarter from Kia alone. Maybe they could use all the EV's the conspiracy nutters think are parked up somewhere in the UK after being pre-registered to inflate thr sales figures. 😁

The special tarrifs (cosy, go etc) might vanish. I suspect economy 7 is going to stick around for quite some time. The 15p fixed export will surely have to go sometime. I also suspect that the "agile" ie half hourly variable tariff types will become more common - I believe Spain has them as the norm. So when making the financial case for batteries don't rely on export remaking 15p. Don't rely on using your special 7p overnight car charge or cosy charging times. Do think about storing enough electricity to run through the night or at he very least the 4pm to 7pm peak Home batteries have the potential to really help the grid by massively reducing the peaks and dips and allowing less infrastructure upgrades or more efficient use of existing infrastructure. Potentially V2G could really help. Again, home batteries, rooftop solar and electrification of transport are often seen through the "Net zero" and "green" lenses, but they are also vital to energy security and cost reduction.

That was what I was toying with.

Carbon capture via trees only works if we don't burn the trees afterwards. Locking the timber up in building materials is good but ultimately the destiny of most wood is to burn or rot. Think of how many tons of trees used to cover the UK 300 years ago, and how much of that timber is still around in buildings, ships and furniture.... Not much.

Regarding your large dT What is your room temp and what is your floor surface temp. Depending on your levels of insulation /Air exchange the difference between your room temp and floor surface temp will vary. For example my old place was well insulated. For a 22C inside air temp I only needed my slab to be 24C or so when it was 5C outside. Of it was below zero I might need a floor temperature of 25C. The floor temp is usually fairly close to your return temp, as long as you have a decent floor surface. If you habe carpet, thick wood, rugs it may be lower. The goal is to get your floor slab to the correct temperature to keep your house comfortable in the current conditions. Once that is reached you heating system only needs to put in the heat you are losing. It looks like you were getting to the right return temp when you stopped. The second thing is your long loop will probably need a higher flow rate to achive the power output at a smaller dT. If it is most of the ground floor you might need to put out a kw or two of heat. That requires a fairly substantial flown rate at dt5. It may be you are hitting the flow rate limit of a 15mm pipe (which is roughly what an ufh pipe is) so thr dT needs to be larger to put the power out.

I argue that the cheapest way to increace our domestic energy production is via increacing renewables at or above the rate currently proposed.